Superhero Cinematic Civil War - Part 58

[Ninjablade]

Pathetic, cowardly, and disgusting.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Someone like this just can’t help it. Ezra has proven that there is no end in sight when it comes to the controversies. Things will just keep happening till WB either puts their foot down or they release this cursed film already.

 

[Marvel united]

Anywayyyyy, who should play Wally West?

 

[Fosterson]

i said this in the Flash forum but i still think Zaslov and the WBD are HOPING this whole thing will boil over since we still have a full year before the movie comes out and Ezra at some point issues a public statement about their side of the story and whats been going on with them in hopes garnering some public empathy. That way WBD can have their cake and eat it too, release the movie next year, make some money and then fire Ezra and start fresh after.

They've gotta find Ezra first.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Child predator ain't something that goes away

Definitely not. Also, there is nothing in their behavior to suggest there aren't just going to be more incidents. I'd say it is far more likely for this to get worse rather than go away.

 

[Iceman]

Definitely not. Also, there is nothing in their behavior to suggest there aren't just going to be more incidents. I'd say it is far more likely for this to get worse rather than go away.

This is the key thing. It’s a consistent and regular pattern of behaviour at this stage. They are going to be in the news for some new incident every few days for something or other.

 

[Zarex]

Marvel Studio's issues moving forward with Letitia "Anti-Vaxxer" Wright and Evangeline "Freedom Trucker" Lilly seemed like a big honking deal not all that long ago. Those problems now seem easy and breezy compared to what the new WB management team has got going on with Miller.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

They should get that dude from the new season of stranger things to play Barry moving forward

Eddie Munster or whatever his name is

 

[Chip Chipperson]

See? Fits like a glove

 

[Deck Rickard]

They should get that dude from the new season of stranger things to play Barry moving forward

Eddie Munster or whatever his name is

Hahaha yeah is his name on the show a reference to Eddie Munster? I figure it probably is because they reference a lot of stuff. Anyway, yeah, he would be a good Barry.

****, literally ANYONE would be better than Miller at this point.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Definitely not. Also, there is nothing in their behavior to suggest there aren't just going to be more incidents. I'd say it is far more likely for this to get worse rather than go away.

Yeah, once they made troll posts after months of chaos, you can't have any faith they won't continue this destructive path.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

You would think a media company would draw the line at having pedophiles and/or rapists in its orbit. But then again this is the same Hollywood that let Bryan Singer party on for years, so there’s that.

 

[Sithborg]

The same environment that was required to hide actor's sexuality also creates an environment for predators to thrive.

 

[Batgirl0202]

The problem is that the more wealth and success these predators achieve, the more their perceived sense of privilege and entitlement grows. They think the law - not to mention general rules of decency and humanity - no longer apply to them.

This is why I don't advocate for sympathy towards someone like Miller. If the reports are true, and they are indeed taunting and eluding the police, that suggests to me that they are fully aware of exactly what they're doing and what the implications could be. They simply don't give a ****.

And I agree, Hollywood creates an environment of secrecy that allows the Spaceys and the Millers and the Singers and the Weinsteins to thrive. Nobody is above the law and nobody has the right to cause physical and/or emotional harm to another person, regardless of an imbalance in power. And when a minor is involved, that is just too disgusting and repulsive for words.

I'm starting to agree, WBD should just shove this ****storm of a movie into the vault and move on. To hell with releasing or reshooting it. Just take the write-down and call it a day. After all, WBD is a large enough company that they will survive. This isn't a Heaven's Gate/Unite Artists scenario. Disney took a $200 million write-down on John Carter alone, albeit under very different circumstances...

WBD needs to dump Flash and publicly divorce themselves from Miller. Never mind PR, it's the just, right, moral, and decent thing to do at this point.

 

[Fosterson]

You would think a media company would draw the line at having pedophiles and/or rapists in its orbit. But then again this is the same Hollywood that let Bryan Singer party on for years, so there’s that.

Also the same Hollywood that cheered and defended convicted child rapist Roman Polanski for decades, and only expelled him from the Academy in 2018.

And among Polanski's biggest champions was Harvey Weinstein who proudly declared in 2009 that Hollywood had "the best moral compass".

 

[Ninjablade]

Definitely not. Also, there is nothing in their behavior to suggest there aren't just going to be more incidents. I'd say it is far more likely for this to get worse rather than go away.

I don't understand how anyone could think that this would just stop and go away when the first major public incident happened two years ago. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if there have been countless more during the last two years that we just haven't heard about because of lockdowns and such.

The path Miller is taking right now can only lead them being locked up by the time the film comes rolling around. Their behavior has only gotten worse. Try marketing a film where the lead is in jail.

 

[kguillou]

You know, perhaps I'm the only one who thinks this but it really is sad because I feel like this cast could've really popped together in chemistry and banter in a proper Justice League movie where they're a team from the start and working together. We got moments of it in Snyder and even Whedon's JL, but I think another director could've worked magic with these actors together.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

The problem is that the more wealth and success these predators achieve, the more their perceived sense of privilege and entitlement grows. They think the law - not to mention general rules of decency and humanity - no longer apply to them.

This is why I don't advocate for sympathy towards someone like Miller. If the reports are true, and they are indeed taunting and eluding the police, that suggests to me that they are fully aware of exactly what they're doing and what the implications could be. They simply don't give a ****.

And I agree, Hollywood creates an environment of secrecy that allows the Spaceys and the Millers and the Singers and the Weinsteins to thrive. Nobody is above the law and nobody has the right to cause physical and/or emotional harm to another person, regardless of an imbalance in power. And when a minor is involved, that is just too disgusting and repulsive for words.

I'm starting to agree, WBD should just shove this ****storm of a movie into the vault and move on. To hell with releasing or reshooting it. Just take the write-down and call it a day. After all, WBD is a large enough company that they will survive. This isn't a Heaven's Gate/Unite Artists scenario. Disney took a $200 million write-down on John Carter alone, albeit under very different circumstances...

WBD needs to dump Flash and publicly divorce themselves from Miller. Never mind PR, it's the just, right, moral, and decent thing to do at this point.

Except appealing to morality is like talking to a brick wall. The only thing these studios understand is money. That’s why we have to attack the bottom line instead.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Miller's not even that good of an actor and was always miscast as Barry Allen.

The fact that he turned out to be a Grade A creep makes it even more absurd that he was cast to begin with.

 

[Drizzle]

The last cast member standing wins a lifetime supply of Wonka bars and ownership of the chocolate factory.

 

[Sithborg]

I don't understand how anyone could think that this would just stop and go away when the first major public incident happened two years ago. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if there have been countless more during the last two years that we just haven't heard about because of lockdowns and such.

The path Miller is taking right now can only lead them being locked up by the time the film comes rolling around. Their behavior has only gotten worse. Try marketing a film where the lead is in jail.

I remember a LOT of people, here and elsewhere on the internet, were carrying water for Miller. "They were friends" "Miller was joking around" "It wasn't serious" Well, it looks like some of our first impressions were right. Miller is a piece of ****.

 

[kguillou]

Totally off topic but I'm giving Black Widow another shot.The first half of this movie is actually pretty damn solid, and it has a very Jason Bourne/ M:I feel to it. But, man, once Red Guardian enters the picture it becomes the Marvel Jokey Jokes hour and completely breaks the tone of the movie. I kinda had this same problem with Shang Chi, first half a badass kung fu flick and then in hour 2...here comes Trevor Slatery for the yucks!

 

[Sithborg]

See, Red Guardian didn't really bother me in the 2nd act, because it was family interaction. That was great. Yeah, the CGI escape was bad.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Red Guardian and Yelena were by far the best things in the movie.