Discussion: The REPUBLICAN Party - - - Part 18

[Dr. Evil]

Bannon is accused of Anti-Semitism? He's just like his hero, Herman Goring.

 

[Sithborg]

Bannon is accused of Anti-Semitism? He's just like his hero, Herman Goring.

Remember, globalist tends to be dog whistle for Jew.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Remember, globalist tends to be dog whistle for Jew.

Yeah.

Heard a rumor that that Milo fella, although gay, grew up idolizing Joseph Mengele.

 

[Mike5575]

I think this is going to backfire in the long run once the Democrats start having CNN interview dying cancer patients. In the meantime, we're going to see the country get hit by a catastrophe. Thousands are going to die. A lot of people already can't get coverage because Republicans have stopped medicaid expansion.

There's an obvious difference between health care access and coverage. Doctors aren't supposed to let people die.

 

[Thundercrack85]

There's an obvious difference between health care access and coverage. Doctors aren't supposed to let people die.

Clearly you've never not had insurance and serious chronic health problems. It's not fun. At best you'll be destitute, at worst, you'll be dead and your family struggling with debts.

Obamacare saved my life figuratively and possibly literally.

People have a right to healthcare, not access to healthcare. If we're going to pretend to be a civilized society that needs to be accepted.

Anyone who thinks otherwise can go to hell as far as I am concerned.

 

[Lighthouse]

Clearly you've never not had insurance and serious chronic health problems. It's not fun. At best you'll be destitute, at worst, you'll be dead and your family struggling with debts.

Obamacare saved my life figuratively and possibly literally.

People have a right to healthcare, not access to healthcare. If we're going to pretend to be a civilized society that needs to be accepted.

Anyone who thinks otherwise can go to hell as far as I am concerned.

Yeah, my end stage renal failure ain't getting patched up on a trip to the hospital.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Yeah, my end stage renal failure ain't getting patched up on a trip to the hospital.

I'm lucky, aside from one close call, my **** isn't likely to end in me dying. I just have expensive medications, frequent specialist visits (those copays add up) and the occasional surgery or ER trip. Still, no one would have covered me before Obamacare.

I can't imagine how insane this has to be if you have something like kidney failure.

Those ER trips can set you back tens of thousands of dollars, if not more if you actually need real care.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Bannon is accused of Anti-Semitism? He's just like his hero, Herman Goring.

Why does that obese sack of neo-Nazi **** have so much influence again?

 

[Lighthouse]

I'm lucky, aside from one close call, my **** isn't likely to end in me dying. I just have expensive medications, frequent specialist visits (those copays add up) and the occasional surgery or ER trip. Still, no one would have covered me before Obamacare.

I can't imagine how insane this has to be if you have something like kidney failure.

Those ER trips can set you back tens of thousands of dollars, if not more if you actually need real care.

That's the thing so many people do not understand about healthcare for the chronically ill. Even if when we have coverage, we STILL pay a ton of money in healthcare costs.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I'm pretty bitter about the whole thing. Trump cost me a few friends. But then if someone is actively voting for policies that will kill and / or ruin you, then I suppose they were never really your friends to begin with.

 

[Schlosser85]

My dad has heart medication/tests etc that would rack up tens of thousands in bills if it wasn’t for his insurance.

 

[mclay18]

I'm pretty bitter about the whole thing. Trump cost me a few friends. But then if someone is actively voting for policies that will kill and / or ruin you, then I suppose they were never really your friends to begin with.

Trump lost me one, and that feeling of betrayal gutted me. I knew the guy leaned center-right (and didn't like Hillary), but I thought he knew better. It was the day after the election, and he made a comment along the lines of "It's not that bad, those you who voted Hillary should stop crying and get over it." I knew I had to cut my losses then because he wasn't listening to reasoned arguments and unfriended me.

I wonder if he's regretting his Trump vote now...

 

[JohnReese]

Trump lost me one, and that feeling of betrayal gutted me. I knew the guy leaned center-right (and didn't like Hillary), but I thought he knew better. It was the day after the election, and he made a comment along the lines of "It's not that bad, those you who voted Hillary should stop crying and get over it." I knew I had to cut my losses then because he wasn't listening to reasoned arguments and unfriended me.

I wonder if he's regretting his Trump vote now...

A lot of people who voted for Trump are truly regretting their decision. They may not say it outright, however, the ones who were posting Pro-Trump memes and pictures on Facebook are very quiet right now. I think the majority of his base finally realize they've been conned.

It's amusing that those who say "You lost get over it." and yet their President is the one who still goes on and on about Hillary and Obama. I respond with "You won. Get over it."

 

[mclay18]

The former friend wasn't a hard-right guy by any means. He's well-educated, charismatic, and I didn't think he was right-leaning until I saw an anti-Hillary joke on his profile dating back to 2010. But that was it.

We didn't really talk politics in person.

 

[regwec]

This won't be a popular view, but I think it's absurd to lose friends over this, or any other political difference short of violent revolution. Soon enough Trump will be history and everyone will have to move on. It would be preferable if that was in parallel.

 

[mclay18]

Trump's presidency cannot end soon enough IMO. I hope once the indictments roll in, that Trump resigns or forced out by 2019.

 

[Thundercrack85]

This won't be a popular view, but I think it's absurd to lose friends over this, or any other political difference short of violent revolution. Soon enough Trump will be history and everyone will have to move on. It would be preferable if that was in parallel.

Clearly you've never been on the verge of losing your healthcare when you need it most. Depending on your medical condition, it might as well be a literal backstabbing.

 

[regwec]

I sympathise, but still think it's childish to hold a friend who voted differently to you personally liable for the repercussions you experience. It presupposes that you and your concerns should be his first and only thought when exercising his democratic right. Unless you're willing to vote in compliance with his preferences, just let bygones be bygones.

 

[Thundercrack85]

I sympathise, but still think it's childish to hold a friend who voted differently to you personally liable for the repercussions you experience. It presupposes that you and your concerns should be his first and only thought when exercising his democratic right. Unless you're willing to vote in compliance with his preferences, just let bygones be bygones.

I disagree, but it also doesn't help that it's Trump. I.e. the antithesis to everything I believe in and an unusually vulgar and racist anthesis at that.

But the whole taking away the thing you need to live is kind of a big ****ing deal. I'm not voting to take anyone's healthcare away.

Again, I think you need to have a major health issue to appreciate this perspective. Kind of becomes a big issue if your life / livelihood is on the line.

 

[regwec]

Again, I sympathise, but why do you hold your friend directly responsible for your healthcare? Did he ever agree to this? If he did, perhaps he'll cover your costs? If not, aren't your expectations unreasonable?

 

[Thundercrack85]

Again, I sympathise, but why do you hold your friend directly responsible for your healthcare? Did he ever agree to this? If he did, perhaps he'll cover your costs? If not, aren't your expectations unreasonable?

If you vote for a man running on destroying Obamacare, I hold you responsible when that man wins and tries to destroy Obamacare. The fact that Trump is a disgusting racist and a sexist didn't help. Not to mention a moron who is unqualified to run anything.

Trump's healthcare plan is a cruel joke.

 

[regwec]

I just can't relate to the way that you seem to think that your personal circumstances should determine the way that people in general and your friends in particular ought to vote. It seems naive. I think voting for Trump was a bad idea, but I assume that it was a poor decision composed of 1,000,001 influences. Why would you be prioritised above all of them?

 

[Lighthouse]

The new Politico profile on John Boehner is extremely enlightening.

 

[Schlosser85]

I just can't relate to the way that you seem to think that your personal circumstances should determine the way that people in general and your friends in particular ought to vote. It seems naive. I think voting for Trump was a bad idea, but I assume that it was a poor decision composed of 1,000,001 influences. Why would you be prioritised above all of them?

I guess he feels that if you’re friends with someone, you should care about whether or not they get to have healthcare.

 

[Donner]

I guess he feels that if you’re friends with someone, you should care about whether or not they get to have healthcare.

This. The same if a friend is gay and the guy running for leader of a country wants to force gay conversion therapy on people. Or take away their right to marry. Voting for that person means you don't give a **** about your friend. That would make someone a really crappy friend and person in general.