Kirk Langstrom
FRANCINE!!!!
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‘Nuff said.
‘Nuff said.
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Yeah just by virtue of having the Raimi and Webb villains, naturally one's inclination would be "Well...does this mean that those Spider-men will be in this as well??" Now, granted, I am going to fully admit that Sony was right all along to keep the marketing secretive and not reveal them in a. trailer. To keep that shred of doubt going amongst the fans. They were 100% right.
Although, I really really wish I didn't know Murdock was in this. That surprise would've knocked me out of my seat if I had no idea he was in it. But its my own fault for looking at the leaked pictures and whatnot. lol
I actually don’t think so because the movie is mostly about Hollands Spideys journey to truly becoming SM. The nostalgia is nice but not the core of the storyI feel about this the same I way feel about the first Avengers movie.
Bringing the old Spideys back is an undeniable joy, but I think once the excitement/gimmick wears off, people will view the movie differently.
I feel about this the same I way feel about the first Avengers movie.
Bringing the old Spideys back is an undeniable joy, but I think once the excitement/gimmick wears off, people will view the movie differently.
Severely disappointed by this movie. I'm glad most of you guys enjoyed it, though. I just couldn't.
Disneyfied to the extreme
As with the other films in the Watts trilogy, one of my main gripes with this film, and most of the MCU films to be frank, is the way it prioritizes humour above everything else. Compared to the Raimi trilogy, this film doesn't feel sincere and genuine. It tries way too hard to be funny way too often, in the first half even in almost every scene. Very rarely do the jokes work, because they feel desperate, tacked on and forced, whereas the Raimi films had a flow where the funny moments came naturally and didn't push aside the raw emotional integrations and scenes. In No Way Home, way too many scenes with potential get interrupted by bad comedy. And very rarely is it actually funny, with the exception of Foxx's delivery. Now almost every character, even the villains, feel silly and goofy. Not to mention dumbed down and nerfed, like for example Dr Strange, just for the sake of comic relief.
Terrible writing
I'm sorry, but I just can't let some things in this movie pass, even though they obviously are meant to be no more than story devices to serve us all the fan service. I'm not just talking about the terrible jokes this time. The most emotional scenes are ruined because I'm constantly reminded of Peter's stupid interaction with Dr. Strange that set this all in motion. Or how Peter brought all these dangerous villains to his place, putting May in danger which, unsurprisingly, becomes her demise. The spider sense scene was cool in a vacuum, but ruined by how stupid Peter was to put himself and May in that situation in the first place. I mean yes, Peter can be naive. But this dumb? Also, I don't get why Sandman joins the baddies in the final fight. And how come Electro got sent to this universe? He didn't know Spidey's secret identity in TASM2, right?
I also need to say that I really hated how Ned suddenly learns how to form portals with the sling ring, something Stephen needed to practice a lot to master.
Too much to handle
No, I don't think this movie handled the amount of characters well. Green Goblin was cool in the few scenes he were in, but given all the praise I expected him to be in it a lot more. Seeing as he was barely in it, I don't get why people favourise him in this film above his role in SM1. He was explored a lot more in that film whereas in this one he was more one dimensional, did some real damage but was easily defeated in the final fight. The only villain I think was handled okay in regards to characterization and screen time was Electro. I honestly don't think the other Spideys got the screen time and character moments needed either. Overall, due to how thin all the characters except for Holland Peter and MJ felt, as well as a lack of memorable epic moments, inspiring shots and direction, this movie didn't feel nearly as grand and eventful as I expected it to be.
Sadly, I don't think it was worth it sacrificing the chance to flesh out new iterations of Spidey's best villains for nostalgia and fan service. I don't think the soft reboot will salvage that.
So, what did I like?
I really liked the acting of Tom and Zendaya. And Dafoe, but he was having way too little screen time.
The music was very good at parts.
The new suit in the final scene looks great.
Rating
To me, this is the weakest in the Watts trilogy and one of the weakest Spider-Man films. I'll give this a 4/10.
As of now, I'd rank the Spider-Man films as the follows:
1) Spider-Man 2
2) Spider-Man
3) Into the Spider Verse
4) Homecoming
5) Far From Home
6) Spider-Man 3
7) No Way Home
8) Amazing 1
9) Amazing 2
Yup, its Posttrack audience rating numbers are also higher than that of Endgame. Coupled with the only A+ Cinemascore for a live-action Spider-Man movie ever. MCU/Sony nailed this one.Just saw the ALL Audience score on Rotten Tomatoes is a 4.9/5 or 99%. Highest I have ever seen for a movie.
Sorry to see you were disappointed. While it's not perfect and not top 5 MCU I thought it was very enjoyable.Severely disappointed by this movie. I'm glad most of you guys enjoyed it, though. I just couldn't.
Disneyfied to the extreme
As with the other films in the Watts trilogy, one of my main gripes with this film, and most of the MCU films to be frank, is the way it prioritizes humour above everything else. Compared to the Raimi trilogy, this film doesn't feel sincere and genuine. It tries way too hard to be funny way too often, in the first half even in almost every scene. Very rarely do the jokes work, because they feel desperate, tacked on and forced, whereas the Raimi films had a flow where the funny moments came naturally and didn't push aside the raw emotional integrations and scenes. In No Way Home, way too many scenes with potential get interrupted by bad comedy. And very rarely is it actually funny, with the exception of Foxx's delivery. Now almost every character, even the villains, feel silly and goofy. Not to mention dumbed down and nerfed, like for example Dr Strange, just for the sake of comic relief.
Terrible writing
I'm sorry, but I just can't let some things in this movie pass, even though they obviously are meant to be no more than story devices to serve us all the fan service. I'm not just talking about the terrible jokes this time. The most emotional scenes are ruined because I'm constantly reminded of Peter's stupid interaction with Dr. Strange that set this all in motion. Or how Peter brought all these dangerous villains to his place, putting May in danger which, unsurprisingly, becomes her demise. The spider sense scene was cool in a vacuum, but ruined by how stupid Peter was to put himself and May in that situation in the first place. I mean yes, Peter can be naive. But this dumb? Also, I don't get why Sandman joins the baddies in the final fight. And how come Electro got sent to this universe? He didn't know Spidey's secret identity in TASM2, right?
I also need to say that I really hated how Ned suddenly learns how to form portals with the sling ring, something Stephen needed to practice a lot to master.
Too much to handle
No, I don't think this movie handled the amount of characters well. Green Goblin was cool in the few scenes he were in, but given all the praise I expected him to be in it a lot more. Seeing as he was barely in it, I don't get why people favourise him in this film above his role in SM1. He was explored a lot more in that film whereas in this one he was more one dimensional, did some real damage but was easily defeated in the final fight. The only villain I think was handled okay in regards to characterization and screen time was Electro. I honestly don't think the other Spideys got the screen time and character moments needed either. Overall, due to how thin all the characters except for Holland Peter and MJ felt, as well as a lack of memorable epic moments, inspiring shots and direction, this movie didn't feel nearly as grand and eventful as I expected it to be.
Sadly, I don't think it was worth it sacrificing the chance to flesh out new iterations of Spidey's best villains for nostalgia and fan service. I don't think the soft reboot will salvage that.
So, what did I like?
I really liked the acting of Tom and Zendaya. And Dafoe, but he was having way too little screen time.
The music was very good at parts.
The new suit in the final scene looks great.
Rating
To me, this is the weakest in the Watts trilogy and one of the weakest Spider-Man films. I'll give this a 4/10.
As of now, I'd rank the Spider-Man films as the follows:
1) Spider-Man 2
2) Spider-Man
3) Into the Spider Verse
4) Homecoming
5) Far From Home
6) Spider-Man 3
7) No Way Home
8) Amazing 1
9) Amazing 2