Official Green Lantern News & Discussion Thread - Part 9

[Lencho01]

Maybe if they sell a lot of merchandise. Any idea how that's going to WB?

 

[The Sage]

For now I don't think it's a success, maybe the numbers will improve. But Transformers 3is on the horizon.

I've been wondering about the GL merchandise myself.

 

[dnno1]

Maybe if they sell a lot of merchandise. Any idea how that's going to WB?

I'm not sure how that translates into profits.

 

[Micromind]

How is Cars 2 trending ?

 

[The Sage]

I'm not sure how that translates into profits.

You're not sure how selling merchandise translates into profits?

 

[Micromind]

There is a reason why all movie franchises geared towards kids/ Teens put movie merchandise, I suspect there is a lot of money in sales of such stuff.

BTW, does anyone here think that bad taste of last Transformers 2 will have any impact in the Box Office performance of TF 3?

 

[Doc Phosphorus]

Boo hoo.

 

[Lencho01]

I'm not sure how that translates into profits.

Merchandise is a major reason why these films are made in the first place. Lucas showed everyone how to do it with Star Wars and WB did it in the past with Batman. So, when GL is pitched as the "Star Wars of the DCU," WB's interest is much greater. And there's of course all the articles and whatnot of various merchandise WB has/had been making for this film.

 

[dnno1]

Merchandise is a major reason why these films are made in the first place. Lucas showed everyone how to do it with Star Wars and WB did it in the past with Batman. So, when GL is pitched as the "Star Wars of the DCU," WB's interest is much greater. And there's of course all the articles and whatnot of various merchandise WB has/had been making for this film.

Yeah, but how much goes to the toy manufacturer and how much goes to the franchise? I don't know what that arrangement is. If you want to count it that way, then the Bubba Gump Shrimp Company is still making money for "Forrest Gump" and Viacom, and it should be a wonder why they aren't making a sequel of that film.

 

[dark_b]

look if the movie flops at the BO and gets low reviews then they will not make a sequel even if they make money with the merchandise.

its not like Cars was a bomb and got destroyed with critics.

lets get realistic.

 

[Doc Phosphorus]

Yeah, but how much goes to the toy manufacturer and how much goes to the franchise? I don't know what that arrangement is. If you want to count it that way, then the Bubba Gump Shrimp Company is still making money for "Forrest Gump" and Viacom, and it should be a wonder why they aren't making a sequel of that film.

...cause it's Forrest Gump?

 

[Lencho01]

Yeah, but how much goes to the toy manufacturer and how much goes to the franchise? I don't know what that arrangement is. If you want to count it that way, then the Bubba Gump Shrimp Company is still making money for "Forrest Gump" and Viacom, and it should be a wonder why they aren't making a sequel of that film.

I don't know what arrangement they have with the manufacturers, but if the film is slightly profitable and the merchandise profits make the company and its investors happy, I could see a sequel happen (likely with a smaller budget or better approach at spending). Even so, like dark_b, I don't expect this to be like Cars which did fine at the BO and with critics, but was huge when it came to merchandise. Time will tell, though.

 

[KalMart]

Anaconda made money.

"Yeah but so what...do you really think a movie about a killer snake is better than Green Lantern?"

 

[Frodo]

For now I don't think it's a success, maybe the numbers will improve. But Transformers 3is on the horizon.

I've been wondering about the GL merchandise myself.

Yeah, I think at most it will break even , but DVD sales usually help with films like this.

 

[Tony Stark]

All you need to do is tell yourself that this is peforming worse than Ghost Rider. On the bright side Ghost Rider is getting a sequel.

 

[Rock Sexton]

All you need to do is tell yourself that this is peforming worse than Ghost Rider. On the bright side Ghost Rider is getting a sequel.

Is that really a "bright" side?

 

[moviedoors]

"Yeah but so what...do you really think a movie about a killer snake is better than Green Lantern?"

I'd probably watch Anaconda again before Green Lantern. That *wink* is B-movie genius.

 

[moviedoors]

Is that really a "bright" side?

That is the cutest smiley I've ever seen.

 

[Rock Sexton]

That is the cutest smiley I've ever seen.

LOL .... dunno why I didn't look for it much sooner.

 

[Tony Stark]

Is that really a "bright" side?

LOL! Yeah I didn't really think about that when I wrote it.

 

[biolumen]

In the past, Robinov has said that WB is looking at their DC tentpoles to take the place of the Harry Potter tentpoles after the last movie is released next month. As such, GL's performance has to be a disappointment, no matter how a studio exec tries to spin it. And even if the movie has legs, with each subsequent week, the studios' share of the box office drops about 10%. So after 3 weeks, WB will only be keeping about half the receipts (these are just estimates).

I don't think it'll have legs, though, not with a Pixar movie opening this weekend and T3 next.

 

[Tony Stark]

And even thought Cars 2 is getting tepid results from the critics, I think if any movie is critic proof that one is. Sure it may not be Toy Story 3 worthy, but if you notice in all the Disney Stores, the two biggest toy sellers are the stuff from the Toy Story movies, followed by Cars. Cars 2 will probably be the first summer open over 100M or darn near close to that.

 

[The Riddler]

Well, I finally saw it.

That was pretty shameful. Usually, when a movie is going to be a mess, the trailers give it a way--usually you can tell, because it often goes hand and hand with disregarding the source material. In this case, they tricked me. They observed the material, but they just ended up doing a really weak, lame job of it.

Weak effects, weak characters, weak plot, weak scripting, weak action--the whole deal. They just saturated the whole thing with lameness. I walked away from a Green Lantern movie thinking that Hal hadn't done a single cool or interesting thing with his ring, and that sucks.

Additionally, those areas where the source material did deviate were all for the worse, not the better. Parallax as a rogue Guardian was lame, the forging of the yellow ring that never got used didn't make any damn sense (fight fear with fear? What?), and then Hal asks the Guardians for permission to go back to his own sector and do his job? What? I imagine what was supposed to happen was that Hal would enlist the helpt of the Corps to fight parallax--but then they realized they couldn't afford it, so the scene was rewritten into the nonsensical pile of crap it turned out as.

Furthermore, Sinestro putting on the ring at the end came out of nowhere, since the darker side of his character was never established.

Hector Hammond was also lame (are you sensing a theme of lameness yet?), and was basically an engine for laughable scenes and action sequences.

The movie wasn't Catwoman bad, it wasn't Batman & Robin bad. In fact, it was nowhere near that bad. Instead, it was simply Punisher-bad--it tried to do everything right, it had it's heart in the right place, but it just failed to reach the level it needed to reach. It was just too lame. I can't believe they made an honest, true-to-the-source Green lantern movie, and it turned out lame. How do you even accomplish that?

Maybe they can recover, though. First Class raised X-Men from the dead, so maybe with a sequel they can finally take this one all the way. I just hope that the lameness of this movie doesn't hurt GL's chances of making it to the screen in a superior form somewhere down the line--and the same goes for the Flash and the rest of DC's stable.

yep, i agree with everything said. it wasn't bad, just really mediocre.

all the film's weaknesses can be linked back the underwhelming script. the writing really let the film down.

 

[WeasleyIsRKing]

Just got back from seeing it. Have to agree with The Riddler. The writing was pretty bad. I actually enjoyed most of the special effects. The characters fell flat because of the horrible dialogue. Took me out of the movie when Hal's friend (what was his name?) said, "You're a superhero! They always get the girl, right?" Ugh. Seriously? How did whoever edit the movie think that was ok to keep in. I thought Reynolds and Lively were serviceable....just not enough development or depth for either. Strong was good as Sinestro, but again...not enough development or screen time.


Overall, they tried to do too much and in the end did nothing all that well. Grade: C-.

 

[Octoberist]

A ver good article. Also, Green lantern needed at least 60 million on the opening weekend for a greenlit sequel:
'Green Lantern': 5 Lessons for Hollywood bit.ly/kTs17z