No Way Home Spider-Man: No Way Home General News & Discussion Thread (TAG SPOILERS)

[Frodo]

I think what helps spider-man is that they are very different versions of the character. Problem with Batman is that i don't think there is enough variation for that character. He is either dark or darker. Everyone wants to say they made Batman darker than the previous.

There's tons of variation for Batman from Lego Batman, Batman brave and the bold , to Adam West, to Affleck, to Bale. The character runs the gambit really . That's why the character has remained popular for decades.

If anything , Superman is the character which tends to be stuck in a box, which is why it's harder to make bigger changes without people freaking out.

However, on the film side as of late, Batman's basically been dark, though , audiences accept and like that, and it keeps making money .

 

[LoganPool]

Marvel Studios moved some dates:

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - May 6, 2022

Thor Love & Thunder - July 8, 2022

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - Nov 11, 2022

The Marvels - Feb 17, 2023

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - July 28, 2023

Guardians 3 appears to not have moved. Marvel also removed the unnamed film dates the had reserved in 2023 off the slate entirely for now.

Breaking: Marvel Studios Makes Major Changes to Upcoming Slate - Murphy's Multiverse

None of this surprises me, except the removal of 2 unannounced films... that's very interesting... and worrisome.

 

[dominick1216]

None of this surprises me, except the removal of 2 unannounced films... that's very interesting... and worrisome.

I never really believed that Marvel was going to release 5 movies in 2023 to begin with. One of them was probably just a placeholder date. Either way, whatever unannounced films(s) that were delayed will more than likely release the following year then.

 

[Spider-Fan]

None of this surprises me, except the removal of 2 unannounced films... that's very interesting... and worrisome.

All that means is those 2023 films are prob 2024 now. I don't think it means they are cancelled.

 

[Arachnerd]

Marvel Studios moved some dates:

Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness - May 6, 2022

Thor Love & Thunder - July 8, 2022

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - Nov 11, 2022

The Marvels - Feb 17, 2023

Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - July 28, 2023

Guardians 3 appears to not have moved. Marvel also removed the unnamed film dates the had reserved in 2023 off the slate entirely for now.

Breaking: Marvel Studios Makes Major Changes to Upcoming Slate - Murphy's Multiverse

Hmmm... this any indication that Sony is inevitably considering delaying NWH? Can't really think of another explanation other than maybe the strike still paying a part somehow.

 

[dominick1216]

Hmmm... this any indication that Sony is inevitably considering delaying NWH? Can't really think of another explanation other than maybe the strike still paying a part somehow.

The Deadline article said the reason why Disney moved many of their films was because initially post-production wouldn't have finished these films on time.

"Exhibition, no need to be alarmed: This has nothing to do with a change in distribution strategy for these films, I’m informed. There’s no Disney+ theatrical day-and-date going on, nor are Disney execs immediately concerned about the future of the global marketplace. It’s all on account of a domino effect going on with production and filmmakers. Some titles are contending with finishing scenarios while others are in production. This is how Disney is solving it, and when you come to think of it, most of the dates were already reserved by the studio for Marvel fare; they’re just moving titles from one slot to the next."

 

[LoganPool]

I'm also willing to bet they wanted to distance themselves from The Batman.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Hmmm... this any indication that Sony is inevitably considering delaying NWH? Can't really think of another explanation other than maybe the strike still paying a part somehow.

I dont think it does. Rumors are all around of issues on set of BP2, and I think that is part of the move for that movie onward. Now, Thor and Strange...there I am not sure. Maybe they just wanted to avoid Batman?

 

[Albright]

Most rational people don't lie that they're part of a union just to discredit the actions of that union...

Uh ouch…

 

[ironwez20]

The Batman scared marvel . Lol jk

 

[Detective Conan]

Marvel is a big enough brand that I don’t see them being all that intimidated with releasing so close to Batman, but I do think they know that even if they ultimately make more than Batman that that character is popular enough to eat into its box office somewhat so pushing the movie to May will allow it to realize it’s full box office potential without another huge comic book franchise to compete against.

 

[spiderman2]

lol they are not going to be scared of a reboot batman that is battling the uphill battle that comes with a reboot after a successful franchise. Even if the batman ends up being great I dont see it doing big box office numbers just like how batman begins didnt. Now if its good a sequel could make major money.

 

[RaimiWebSpidey]

This new Batman has a lot of hype around it and the trailers have been met with massive praise. I would not be surprised at all if it makes $150M OW and $1Billion total.

 

[ironwez20]

lol they are not going to be scared of a reboot batman that is battling the uphill battle that comes with a reboot after a successful franchise. Even if the batman ends up being great I dont see it doing big box office numbers just like how batman begins didnt. Now if its good a sequel could make major money.

Uphill battle? Successful franchise? The last Batman movie solo was tdkr. That was in 2012 Which kinda sucked imo. The affleck interpretation is hit or miss with people and also this looks good as hell. And the praise is high. Asm was a reboot that had an uphill battle. It came 6 yrs after the Tobey ones. It’s been 11 yrs since we had a solo Batman movie. People didn’t think joker would make big box office numbers either but that made bank .

also yes I’m coming off as a Batman Stan right now but I’m not I love Spider-Man the most but that Batman film looks epic

 

[Frodo]

This new Batman has a lot of hype around it and the trailers have been met with massive praise. I would not be surprised at all if it makes $150M OW and $1Billion total.

I wouldn't underestimate the new Batman film either with the GA either.

I get how there may be some people who say " Batman again?" , but this is still a very successful film franchise character ,so I wouldn't count on the GA not being interested in at least seeing how Pattinson does, given how newsworthy his casting was.

If it's also being released in an environment that isn't as hampered by Covid, it won't have the ceiling that alot of recent releases tend to have in terms of getting people into theater seats.

How it will be as a film remains to be seen, but at the very least, people are gonna wanna see how Pattinson is as Batman, much more than they did with Affleck as Batman.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I wouldn't underestimate the new Batman film either with the GA either.

I get how there may be some people who say " Batman again?" , but this is still a very successful film franchise character ,so I wouldn't count on the GA not being interested in at least seeing how Pattinson does, given how newsworthy his casting was.

If it's also being released in an environment that isn't as hampered by Covid, it won't have the ceiling that alot of recent releases tend to have in terms of getting people into theater seats.

How it will be as a film remains to be seen, but at the very least, people are gonna wanna see how Pattinson is as Batman, much more than they did with Affleck as Batman.

Also, if we're being real, we haven't had a solo Batman film in a decade, and a well receieved interpretation at that. People act like we've been over saturated with Batman in movies since then, but not really. and the times that we have seen him since, it's been in controversial settings.

For people like me, the era of Batman being loved in all forms of media is sorely missed. The late 2000s was such a fantastic era for Batman. TDK trilogy had transcended the genre, and people were riding a Batman high. Then the Snyder verse came, and, for me at least, took a dump all over it. Matt Reeves vision looks extremely promising and I have a feeling if all goes well, we could be looking at another great era for the character.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Eh, I am mostly burnt out on Batman, personally. I am pumped for The Batman, but it is only Batman related thing I am pumped for. Batman for me is a massively over exposed character. So I totally understand anyone who is sick of Batman

 

[Gothamsknight]

Eh, I am mostly burnt out on Batman, personally. I am pumped for The Batman, but it is only Batman related thing I am pumped for. Batman for me is a massively over exposed character. So I totally understand anyone who is sick of Batman

Oh I understand it too, I mean, I get it. I was speaking for myself mainly haha. I have a friend who is burnt out on Batman, and he was insanely into TDK trilogy. I don't see him often, but last time I did he had seen the teaser for The Batman last year and thought it looked really good.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Oh I understand it too, I mean, I get it. I was speaking for myself mainly haha. I have a friend who is burnt out on Batman, and he was insanely into TDK trilogy. I don't see him often, but last time I did he had seen the teaser for The Batman last year and thought it looked really good.

Pretty much Matt Reeves and the trailers have me on board for The Batman. But The Flash devolving into a Batman tribute film, meh. The new game, meh. The Bruce Timm cartoon, meh. Batman is at a point where he sort of annoys me. Even if I wanted to buy the McFarlane DC figures, almost all of them are different Batman or Joker figures. Just kind of over Batman at this point. Fans of TDK trilogy also don't help as I wasn't a fan of TDKR at all. But whenever you dare criticise it or any Nolan film, the fans are annoying, condescending, and it isn't fun to discuss at all. So, I kind of just am over Batman in general

I was getting there with Stark in the MCU, but since he won't be around for a while the break I think will alleviate that feeling.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Pretty much Matt Reeves and the trailers have me on board for The Batman. But The Flash devolving into a Batman tribute film, meh. The new game, meh. The Bruce Timm cartoon, meh. Batman is at a point where he sort of annoys me. Even if I wanted to buy the McFarlane DC figures, almost all of them are different Batman or Joker figures. Just kind of over Batman at this point. Fans of TDK trilogy also don't help as I wasn't a fan of TDKR at all. But whenever you dare criticise it or any Nolan film, the fans are annoying, condescending, and it isn't fun to discuss at all. So, I kind of just am over Batman in general

I was getting there with Stark in the MCU, but since he won't be around for a while the break I think will alleviate that feeling.

That's understandable. The Flash doesn't sound promising to me tbh. I mean, the inclusion of Keaton, while exciting, shows that they aren't even confident enough in The Flash to let him have his own movie. I also am still not really all that on board with Ezra Miller either. The whole choking incident and also he just comes across as very obnoxious.

I love TDKR, but I'm totally okay if someone doesn't haha. It's not a perfect movie, and I realize that.

 

[Pablo Parker]

Im also kind of fed up with Batman in general, but still, im sure The Batman is going to be great. Its Matt Reeves, so thats all I need to get my tickets. No matter how tired I am of the character.
Also, the general audience loves the Bat, so Im sure this will be succesfull.

 

[Atiba]

A month an 2 weeks away with only one singular teaser no poster an one lousy title reveal.... I swear this trailer needs to drop now or first week November and that **** better blow my socks off

 

[Atiba]

Sony is undoubtedly sitting on the best Spider Man movie to date...the Marketing needs to start NOW. Atleast when it does start we are so close to release that you know where gonna get alot of good **** in short time frame

 

[Detective Conan]

Eh, I am mostly burnt out on Batman, personally. I am pumped for The Batman, but it is only Batman related thing I am pumped for. Batman for me is a massively over exposed character. So I totally understand anyone who is sick of Batman

I’m right there with you. I think DC’s big flaw is the over-reliance on Batman as a character which leads to other characters like Wonder Woman being sidelined. I mean seriously, how does Wonder Woman still not have her own cartoon series after the success of her first movie? You figure that they’d want to capitalize on that success and show the DC brand is way more than Batman. This is one of the main reasons it’s a good thing Marvel Studios didn’t have Spider-Man and X-Men from the start, and were only left with their less popular characters. Which made them give spot-light to their other characters. If they had access to X-Men at the beginning I think we’d be seeing similar instances of franchise overexposure with them.

 

[ironwez20]

Pretty much Matt Reeves and the trailers have me on board for The Batman. But The Flash devolving into a Batman tribute film, meh. The new game, meh. The Bruce Timm cartoon, meh. Batman is at a point where he sort of annoys me. Even if I wanted to buy the McFarlane DC figures, almost all of them are different Batman or Joker figures. Just kind of over Batman at this point. Fans of TDK trilogy also don't help as I wasn't a fan of TDKR at all. But whenever you dare criticise it or any Nolan film, the fans are annoying, condescending, and it isn't fun to discuss at all. So, I kind of just am over Batman in general

I was getting there with Stark in the MCU, but since he won't be around for a while the break I think will alleviate that feeling.

i agree. Dc problem is they never had faith in there characters and also put Batman in the center. The flash movie shouldn’t be a Batman centered multiverse movie. It should be a flash movie. Still will be there for Keaton tho. Also double agree. The dark knight rises was a crap film and I dare anyone to tell me it wasn’t lol