The Mandalorian Chapter 22 Spoiler Thread

[GREEN =w= DAY]

This was quite an enjoyable episode. Sort of felt like a buddy cop drama with Bo & Din partnering up to solve the crime of the week lol

And all the cameos! Jack Black, Lizzo, Christopher Lloyd, Battle Droids, Star Tours Capt. Rex (DJ Rex now), etc.

Sort of felt like we were in the prequel era throughout the episode

 

[herolee10]

So, what was the point of giving Din the Darksaber in the first place if it was just going to go back to Bo Katan?

As much as I like Bo Katan's character, I didn't sign up to have her take Din's spot as the main character of this show. I have no idea on what they're even trying to do with his character anymore.

Unless the next two episodes undo the damages done to his character, I don't think I'll be watching any future seasons of this show anymore.

 

[Snow Queen]

That was a fun one. The good kind of goofy. Also being more removed from the cult is refreshing after these last two as I don't love their writing there. Plus, Howard did a great job directing it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If "Cha Cha" is Lizzo, then yes.

It's Mercedes Varnado aka Sasha Banks. I call her Cha Cha, because of how Becky Lynch and her Irish accent, says her name. But yeah, Lizzo wasn't great either.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That was a fun one. The good kind of goofy. Also being more removed from the cult is refreshing after these last two as I don't love their writing there. Plus, Howard did a great job directing it.

They did a side mission, and still had more plot progress then the last three episodes combined.

 

[Snow Queen]

They did a side mission, and still had more plot progress then the last three episodes combined.

The show leans way too hard on the side mission structure generally, but it works very well sometimes and this episode was a good example of that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So, what was the point of giving Din the Darksaber in the first place if it was just going to go back to Bo Katan?

As much as I like Bo Katan's character, I didn't sign up to have her take Din's spot as the main character of this show. I have no idea on what they're even trying to do with his character anymore.

Unless the next two episodes undo the damages done to his character, I don't think I'll be watching any future seasons of this show anymore.

Din may or may not end up with the darksaber. That has no barring on who the main character is. The darksaber belongs to the leader of Mandalore. Din ain't going to be the leader of Mandalore until this show is ending. So it would make no sense for him to have it now if ever.

Bo is not the main character. But she's the mechanics of the plot. Like in a Mad Max flick. Max is still the main character, even if plot progression and resolution revolves around other characters. Because Din's a passenger, not the driving force. He don't care about Mandalore.

The idea that Din has been damaged is bizarre to me. He's who he's always been. A simple man, making his way in the galaxy. He doesn't need to rule it, no more then Luke Skywalker did.

 

[flickchick85]

Definitely the best episode of the season imo. I was quite surprised Favreau still wrote it lol. Guess he can still write ok when he's not writing the cult.

Plazir is a new favorite SW planet for me. I like the variety.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The show leans way too hard on the side mission structure generally, but it works very well sometimes and this episode was a good example of that.

I first half of this season was a structural mess. Combine the first two episodes, ditch most of the third and combine it with the fourth. This should've been the third, if not fourth episode of the season. Or you start the season like you should've. With Grogurt coming home. Not on Boba.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Definitely the best episode of the season imo. I was quite surprised Favreau still wrote it lol. Guess he can still write ok when he's not writing the cult.

Plazir is a new favorite SW planet for me. I like the variety.

Favs couldn't leave the planet. Saved us from the travelogue.

He has a writing credit on all episodes this season. Filoni has two. His second is next week. SABINE INCOMING!

A boy can dream...

 

[flickchick85]

I first half of this season was a structural mess. Combine the first two episodes, ditch most of the third and combine it with the fourth. This should've been the third, if not fourth episode of the season. Or you start the season like you should've. With Grogurt coming home. Not on Boba.

If the first two episodes of the season were those two Boba episodes, followed by the first 5 of this season combined into the next 3, and this was still #6, this would've been an awesome season at this point. But alas, they sabotaged themselves big time.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If the first two episodes of the season were those two Boba episodes, followed by the first 5 of this season combined into the next 3, and this was still #6, this would've been an awesome season at this point. But alas, they sabotaged themselves big time.

Yep. Exactly.

 

[herolee10]

Din may or may not end up with the darksaber. That has no barring on who the main character is. The darksaber belongs to the leader of Mandalore. Din ain't going to be the leader of Mandalore until this show is ending. So it would make no sense for him to have it now if ever.

Bo is not the main character. But she's the mechanics of the plot. Like in a Mad Max flick. Max is still the main character, even if plot progression and resolution revolves around other characters. Because Din's a passenger, not the driving force. He don't care about Mandalore.

The idea that Din has been damaged is bizarre to me. He's who he's always been. A simple man, making his way in the galaxy. He doesn't need to rule it, no more then Luke Skywalker did.

Prior to Season 3, Din was portrayed as the John Wick of Mandalorians. Much like Grogu coming back shortly after his emotional departure in Season 2's finale, Bo Katan getting the darksaber back so quickly makes the whole time that Din spent with it feel like a waste. Why give it to him at all in the first place?

Din no longer has any plot now and just goes from one side quest to next. Meanwhile, all of the character development has been given to Bo Katan and she will undoubtedly be the face of the new age of Mandalore going forward as well.

If they wanted to make a show with Bo Katan as the lead, then they should have just done so from the beginning. Also, while Din doesn't care about Mandalore, he does care about the Mandalorians. Unlike Bo Katan, Din is the actual one to have walked both sides of the Mandalorian way.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

My bro talking about how Sabine is gonna get the darksaber back. And while I don't think that will happen, the chance for her to dual wield it with Ezra's green lightsaber got me like...

 

[Sithborg]

Finally, someone took the Darksaber from Din. He was going to lose a limb using that thing eventually. I do continually laugh at people claiming he should be Mandalor. Man is not a Supercommando. He is just trying his best.

So, 2 factions of Mandos down, 2-3 to go. Clan Wren faction should be fairly easy, not so sure about Fenn Rau and his protectors. Plus, I just know we are getting Gideon with some Mandos, likely the remnants of the Imperial Supercommandos and Clan Saxon. Filoni was involved in writing the next episode, so there could be Rebels connections. Or we continue with Gizmo's flashbacks.

Fun episode. Just highlights some of the narrative weakness the previous episodes have had, even if they were enjoyable. I'm not sure how much of that is due to the slapdash of combining with other shows or just writing level.

Looked great, for the most part. Again, Volume not the greatest in dark, crowded spaces. But, overall. looked good. Howard loves her ship re-entry shots. And bless her for it.

And again, Din being a jerk to droids is just fun to watch.

 

[herolee10]

in all honesty, would anyone here legitimately miss Din Jarin if he were to be killed off at some point in the series?

With the way they've set up the show, it feels like any Mandalorian (e.g., Bo Katan) could fill in for him. After all, the show is called "The Mandalorian" and not "Din Jarin".

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Prior to Season 3, Din was portrayed as the John Wick of Mandalorians. Much like Grogu coming back shortly after his emotional departure in Season 2's finale, Bo Katan getting the darksaber back so quickly makes the whole time that Din's had it feel like a waste. Why give it to him at all in the first place?

Din no longer has any plot now and just goes from one side quest to next. Meanwhile, all of the character development has been given to Bo Katan and she will undoubtedly be the face of the new age of Mandalore going forward as well.

If they wanted to make a show with Bo Katan as the lead, then they should have just done so from the beginning. Also, while Din doesn't care about Mandalore, he does care about the Mandalorians. Unlike Bo Katan, Din is the actual one to have walked both sides of the Mandalorian way.

The hell he was. Boba showed up on his show, and was more John Wick then Din ever was.

Characters don't have plot. The story does. Characters have arcs. Din has sadly been a pretty static character for the most part, outside of my boy Rick's episodes.

When did Din walk both sides of the Mandalorian way?

Yes, Din cares about the Mandalorians. Which is why he knows they need a capable leader. Bo is a vet, with far more leadership skills, combat experience, and understanding of Mandalorian culture then anyone else on this show. Well, outside of maybe the Armorer, but we don't know who she actually is. Are you unaware of who Bo Katan is? She helped take back Mandalore from Maul. She helped retake it from the Empire. What makes her less qualified then Din, who doesn't even know traditional Mando cuisine?

 

[flickchick85]

I do continually laugh at people claiming he should be Mandalor. Man is not a Supercommando. He is just trying his best.

Amen. He's the lone wolf with a cub. That's what he was designed for. He ain't the leader of anything, and he ain't John Wick. That's not his role.

Unlike Bo Katan, Din is the actual one to have walked both sides of the Mandalorian way.

Uh, not 'til he's willing to operate helmetless like a non-fanatic.

 

[Sithborg]

Prior to Season 3, Din was portrayed as the John Wick of Mandalorians. Much like Grogu coming back shortly after his emotional departure in Season 2's finale, Bo Katan getting the darksaber back so quickly makes the whole time that Din spent with it feel like a waste. Why give it to him at all in the first place?

Din no longer has any plot now and just goes from one side quest to next. Meanwhile, all of the character development has been given to Bo Katan and she will undoubtedly be the face of the new age of Mandalore going forward as well.

If they wanted to make a show with Bo Katan as the lead, then they should have just done so from the beginning. Also, while Din doesn't care about Mandalore, he does care about the Mandalorians. Unlike Bo Katan, Din is the actual one to have walked both sides of the Mandalorian way.

The man was never the John Wick of Mandalorians.

 

[herolee10]

Amen. He's the lone wolf with a cub. That's what he was designed for. He ain't the leader of anything, and he ain't John Wick. That's not his role.


Uh, not 'til he's willing to operate helmetless like a non-fanatic.

Well, he did take off his helmet twice last Season. They could have easily used that to springboard his character into a new direction.

 

[flickchick85]

Well, he did take off his helmet twice last Season. They could have easily used that to springboard his character into a new direction.

A "transgression" he needed to be "redeemed" for. Letting his child see his face. That ain't walking both ways. That's sticking to your way and accepting punishment you think you deserved.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

in all honesty, would anyone here legitimately miss Din Jarin if he were to be killed off at some point in the series?

With the way they've set up the show, it feels like any Mandalorian (e.g., Bo Katan) could fill in for him. After all, the show is called "The Mandalorian" and not "Din Jarin".

Yes. Because I like Din. I do not base my love for characters on power levels and their place in a mythical hierarchy. Joffrey wasn't my favorite, because he was king. I liked that bastard on the Wall.

 

[flickchick85]

in all honesty, would anyone here legitimately miss Din Jarin if he were to be killed off at some point in the series?

I and Grogu would miss him dearly. He's a very endearing character, imo. One doesn't have to be the biggest badass or the destined leader of a lost civilization to be that. In fact what endears me to him are the moments when he's not remotely "badass" at all.

 

[Snow Queen]

Arguably one of the most frustrating things about Din's writing is that they put him in a prime position to reexamine the weird cult he's in and have just decided to... not do that? He didn't walk anything, he just made a mistake in his perspective.

 

[Sithborg]

I personally am hoping for a Din and the cult to get a very Scottish tear down.