The Mandalorian Chapter 22 Spoiler Thread

[DarthSkywalker]

Well, you and everyone else rightfully pointed out how dangerous it was for Din to wield the darksaber with his current experience.

Again, my biggest issue with Din is how he's being used and his lack of character arcs. It fjust feels like he's there to either accompany Bo Katan or partake in the next side quest with no long-term development behind his decisions.

The darksaber is a Jedi weapon. It's dangerous for all non-force wielders.

What was the long term development ideas behind Din in season 1 and 2?

 

[flickchick85]

It's Hollywood. He sat in a room and recorded some lines. I'll always remember Gwyneth Paltrow not remembering what Marvel movies she was in.

I mean I know but...that's quintessential Gwyneth. I never put Favs on her level before (though, wait, wasn't that even on HIS show?! OMG.). :scream:

 

[Perfect Cell]

That droid bar was a weird goddamn thing, in the best way. I'm pretty sure one of the droids got cut off. That's fantastic.

 

[Perfect Cell]

I mean I know but...that's quintessential Gwyneth. I never put Favs on her level before (though, wait, wasn't that even on HIS show?! OMG.). :scream:

Even Michael Caine remembered he was in Jaws 4. It takes a special level of aloofness to forget even bit parts. There's probably a Goop to help with that. Is that what they're called? Goops?

 

[herolee10]

The darksaber is a Jedi weapon. It's dangerous for all non-force wielders.

What was the long term development ideas behind Din in season 1 and 2?

And yet both Sabrine and Bo Katan learned to effectively wield the darksaber.

My interpretation of Din's development from the previous two seasons was him becoming a father figure to Grogu, returning him to the Jedi, overcoming his prejudice against droids, and learning that there was more to being a Mandalorian than what he was originally taught.

 

[flickchick85]

Even Michael Caine remembered he was in Jaws 4.

Well sure, it bought him a house.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

And yet both Sabrine and Bo Katan learned to effectively wield the darksaber.

My interpretation of Din's development from the previous two seasons was him becoming a father figure to Grogu, returning him to the Jedi, overcoming his prejudice against droids, and learning that there was more to being a Mandalorian than what he was originally taught.

Sabine learned from a Jedi. Bo had it for who knows how long. Still dangerous to wield.

1. He became a father figure to Grogurt in the second episode.

2. Returning him to the Jedi isn't a character arc. It's a plotline that drove the season, but saw Din doing the same stuff he always does.

3. He overcame his prejudice in the s1 finale.

4. When did he learn there was more to being a Mando then what he was originally taught in a way that impacted his development? Because even before this season, he went back to the cult.

Din's entire thing is being papa bear to his baby bear. There isn't a ton to him outside of that. He's still doing that. The only difference now, is they won't seemingly be parted. Outside of that, Din is the same as he ever was.

The only real peeks into his personality come in Rick's episodes and big finale moments. His frustration with the Jawas, the removing of his helmet, almost dying, saying bye to the kid, etc.

 

[Weather Witch]

I got a big chuckle out of Bo-Katan getting the darksaber on a technicality. Especially since Reddit was full of threads stating this theory that were shot down.

 

[Perfect Cell]

It could also be that Sabine and Bo are just better at this than Din. Plenty of story evidence seems to back that up. Din doesn't need to be the baddest mother****er around to be a good protagonist. He's just doing his best.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It could also be that Sabine and Bo are just better at this than Din. Plenty of story evidence seems to back that up. Din doesn't need to be the baddest mother****er around to be a good protagonist. He's just doing his best.

That's not how this works Cell and you know it! Remember when they tried to replace Goku with Gohan? Gohan needed a serve power downgrade, and they had to bring Goku back to life, so Vegeta could spend all of eternity trying to compare penis si... I mean power levels.

 

[herolee10]

I guess I didn't really notice Din's many shortcomings as a character until Bo Katan was given the spotlight in this season.

Maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to give this show to Bo Katan after all. And to think that the show's producers don't even have an endgame in mind yet. Nevertheless, I'll have to rethink about continuing with this show. Definitely not what I thought it would be after Season 2.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

On the, "Din's just a dude track", this episode reminded us of a time when he would've died if not for the other Mandos in s2e3.

 

[herolee10]

On the, "Din's just a dude track", this episode reminded us of a time when he would've died if not for the other Mandos in s2e3.

I had almost forgotten about that. Wow, I guess there's really nothing special about Din's character after all. Makes you wonder why Jon and Dave didn't just create a show about Bo Katan from the first place. Not only is she a better character in every way imaginable, but she also has better source material to choose from.

Din's character seems to only work when he's presented in small doses. Luckily for me, I still have the likes of Ahsoka to look forward to.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I didn’t care for this episode too much and the season isn’t really what I want, but Din not being an OP superhero isn’t one of my concerns.

 

[antsman41]

I need a black Astromech droid.

j a c k b l a c k

YOU HAD ME AT BATTLE DROIDS

Doc!

Justice for L3

Dooku apologist, whatttt

2x Mandos playing catch - lol

BO OR BUST

 

[Iceman]

12 mins in, another Grogu flip. I live for these. :smilingeyes:

 

[cyclone]

I've got to laugh at myself (and perhaps should speak to a professional) but I finished this episode and found myself just brimming with rage.

It felt like a parody of itself. Like Star Wars is becoming a little celeb friendship club that they will let anyone appear in a SW episode or movie if they're a fan and are well known. I don't want to say they wrote the episode specifically for Jack Black, but you cannot tell me that what preceded the last 10 mins was relevant. It was so pointless. He hates droids. We get it. It's boring.

Here's an idea, they got to the planet, go straight to the mercenaries, same fight, same result etc. then low and behold we've got half hour of them going back to the armourer and the clan and they thrash it out and start on the quest for Mandalore. Instead we got 30 mins of just pointless dross.

I was so disappointed. :frown:

 

[antsman41]

 

[The Big G]

So, what was the point of giving Din the Darksaber in the first place if it was just going to go back to Bo Katan?

I think the armorer is going the pull the rug from under Bo down the line. Things are looking good for her now...but Im not sure how good they'll be at the end.

 

[Iceman]

Good that Bo has the darksaber now. She might do something with it. Was just weighing Din down lol.

 

[The Big G]

So as I said earlier, very enjoyable episode. But the flow of this season has been off. More so than TBoBF.

SO here's how I think they should have structured things.

Episode 1: Combo of 1&2

Episode 2: Opening/Ending of 3 & all of 4

Episode 3: All of 5

Episode 4: The majority of 3 plus some Bo and Din shenanigans as they try to get a lead on her old Mando pals.

Episode 5: All of 6

I feel this creates a better flow for the season's story

 

[Iceman]

I think the armorer is going the pull the rug from under Bo down the line. Things are looking good for her now...but Im not sure how good they'll be at the end.

Don’t think many are expecting the Armorer to not have a sinister side to her to be revealed soon.

 

[Iceman]

Funny to see a malfunctioning droid suddenly start driving a speeder.

That battle droid that took off was pretty nippy!

And that droid bar was awesome. I want to go there for a night out with them.

 

[The Caped Knight]

This episode felt more like a Clone Wars episode than a Mandalorian episode imo.

 

[antsman41]

See, I love the episodic nature... and greater SW galaxy adventures.

BUT - that should warrant longer seasons.

8 is enough for a tight simple story, yet not long enough for rad tangents and fun side quests.