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Style with no substance. I'd love for Dark Phoenix to be the same hype level as Deadpool and Logan and be on their quality level vs. 90% of Marvel Disney's shallow tone and output level no matter how popular that thought might be.
Critics wouldn't give those films good reviews if they were just all style. Anyway, you are speaking for yourself. How about you criticize the MCU films in the MCU threads for their "shallow tone" and see what reaction would you get. Instead of doing it here in this thread all the time.
No one said that. People are saying that the current trajectory is positive why not wait and see and just be cautiously optimistic rather than rudely pessimistic?
I know you mentioned averages but at the end of the day there were no movies in the franchise in 2012, none in 2015. It's possible the X-men in the MCU can see the same amount of appearances as they currently do over at Fox. Probably not the entire team but relevant characters might show up in other non X-men team films (which isn't any different from Cyclops and Storm cameoing during the Cerebro sequel in First Class or Jean's appearance in The Wolverine).
But more importantly, (and I have no doubt) the X-men under the MCU will finally be leads in their own movie.
The irony of your post is that within that "9 year stretch" here's what the "X-men" have to show for from the franchise:
2011: there was no X-men team in First Class (no matter how Kinberg wanted to retcon that with JLaw's dialogue in Apocalypse);
2013: was the term "X-men" even mentioned in The Wolverine;
2014: there was no X-men team in the past; nor were they X-men in the future according to Singer;
2016: it was a running joke in Deadpool 1 that they can only afford Colossus and his trainee Negasonic Teenage Warhead;
2016: Comic book A-lister X-man Beast, who in the movies can't seem to do anything right, waits for messianic X-woman herself Mystique to show up since he's still too chicken ***t to organize the team on his own; How long were they "X-men" in that movie?
2017: The X-men are killed by their mentor; They appear in a comic book;
2018: 2 second cameo;
2019: ?
2019: ?
That's a sad showing for the X-men and it's even sadder to think that some people can accept this treatment.
Critics wouldn't give those films good reviews if they were just all style. Anyway, you are speaking for yourself. How about you criticize the MCU films in the MCU threads for their "shallow tone" and see what reaction would you get. Instead of doing it here in this thread all the time.
Wouldn't it be fair that you shouldn't be posting about how you can't wait for Marvel to reboot the X-Men every other day as well? You come in here and whine about Kinberg and then talk about how much better the MCU will do it. That also is deflecting from Dark Phoenix to talk about a non-related subject matter that you're interested in.
Critics wouldn't give those films good reviews if they were just all style. Anyway, you are speaking for yourself. How about you criticize the MCU films in the MCU threads for their "shallow tone" and see what reaction would you get. Instead of doing it here in this thread all the time.
Wouldn't it be fair that you shouldn't be posting about how you can't wait for Marvel to reboot the X-Men every other day as well? You come in here and whine about Kinberg and then talk about how much better the MCU will do it. That also is deflecting from Dark Phoenix to talk about a non-related subject matter that you're interested in.
This.Wouldn't it be fair that you shouldn't be posting about how you can't wait for Marvel to reboot the X-Men every other day as well? You come in here and whine about Kinberg and then talk about how much better the MCU will do it. That also is deflecting from Dark Phoenix to talk about a non-related subject matter that you're interested in.
Also this "the Academy Awards don't matter but MCU is definitely gong to get one and the BEST one!" mentality is sad. You MCU fans can't have it both ways.
Just out of curiosity, do you really believe that the X-Men, who acted like X-Men and dressed like X-Men, were not X-Men in FC because they didn't use that name? That seems a wee bit pedantic.
You do know thats two different people that said that right? Person A said Black Panther [will] get a Best Picture nomination. Person B laughed off all the Oscars talk because even Suicide Squad got an Oscar
It was Singer himself who said during an interview that X-men Apocalypse is a film about the birth and formation of the X-men, so youll have to take it up with him.
Just out of curiosity, do you really believe that the X-Men, who acted like X-Men and dressed like X-Men, were not X-Men in FC because they didn't use that name? That seems a wee bit pedantic.
Wouldn't it be fair that you shouldn't be posting about how you can't wait for Marvel to reboot the X-Men every other day as well? You come in here and whine about Kinberg and then talk about how much better the MCU will do it. That also is deflecting from Dark Phoenix to talk about a non-related subject matter that you're interested in.
Dr. Moira MacTaggert : You know, one day the government is going to realize that how lucky they were to have Professor X on their side.
Professor Charles Xavier : I suppose I am a real professor, aren't I? Next thing you know, I'll be going bald. We're still on the government side, Moira. We're still G-Men. Just without the "G".
Dr. Moira MacTaggert : No. You're your own team now. It's better. You're X-Men.
Professor Charles Xavier : Yes, I like the sound of that.
I know you mentioned averages but at the end of the day there were no movies in the franchise in 2012, none in 2015. It's possible the X-men in the MCU can see the same amount of appearances as they currently do over at Fox. Probably not the entire team but relevant characters might show up in other non X-men team films (which isn't any different from Cyclops and Storm cameoing during the Cerebro sequel in First Class or Jean's appearance in The Wolverine).
But more importantly, (and I have no doubt) the X-men under the MCU will finally be leads in their own movie.
Hopefully DP can improve in this area.The irony of your post is that within that "9 year stretch" here's what the "X-men" have to show for from the franchise:
2011: there was no X-men team in First Class (no matter how Kinberg wanted to retcon that with JLaw's dialogue in Apocalypse);
2013: was the term "X-men" even mentioned in The Wolverine;
2014: there was no X-men team in the past; nor were they X-men in the future according to Singer;
2016: it was a running joke in Deadpool 1 that they can only afford Colossus and his trainee Negasonic Teenage Warhead;
2016: Comic book A-lister X-man Beast, who in the movies can't seem to do anything right, waits for messianic X-woman herself Mystique to show up since he's still too chicken ***t to organize the team on his own; How long were they "X-men" in that movie?
2017: The X-men are killed by their mentor; They appear in a comic book;
2018: 2 second cameo;
2019: ?
2019: ?
That's a sad showing for the X-men
There is only one dud out of those movies. The rest were at least good if not great. So that helps a lot. I guess a lot hinges on how DP goes. People "accepted this treatment" of the X-Men through this FC trilogy to get to the A-List characters on the timeline. We are at that point now. So like I said, hopefully DP makes it worth the wait.and it's even sadder to think that some people can accept this treatment.
I know you mentioned averages but at the end of the day there were no movies in the franchise in 2012, none in 2015. It's possible the X-men in the MCU can see the same amount of appearances as they currently do over at Fox. Probably not the entire team but relevant characters might show up in other non X-men team films (which isn't any different from Cyclops and Storm cameoing during the Cerebro sequel in First Class or Jean's appearance in The Wolverine).
But more importantly, (and I have no doubt) the X-men under the MCU will finally be leads in their own movie.
The irony of your post is that within that "9 year stretch" here's what the "X-men" have to show for from the franchise:
2011: there was no X-men team in First Class (no matter how Kinberg wanted to retcon that with JLaw's dialogue in Apocalypse);
2013: was the term "X-men" even mentioned in The Wolverine;
2014: there was no X-men team in the past; nor were they X-men in the future according to Singer;
2016: it was a running joke in Deadpool 1 that they can only afford Colossus and his trainee Negasonic Teenage Warhead;
2016: Comic book A-lister X-man Beast, who in the movies can't seem to do anything right, waits for messianic X-woman herself Mystique to show up since he's still too chicken ***t to organize the team on his own; How long were they "X-men" in that movie?
2017: The X-men are killed by their mentor; They appear in a comic book;
2018: 2 second cameo;
2019: ?
2019: ?
That's a sad showing for the X-men and it's even sadder to think that some people can accept this treatment.
I'm sure the main line X-Men team would be done justice. At least as far as proper attention goes. Its the stuff outside of the main X-Men series I'm concerned about. Potential X-Force series. Potential New Mutants series. Solo spinoffs. I feel like we are just now, over a decade and a half, really getting an expanded universe and once Disney gets it everything contracts back in.
Hopefully DP can improve in this area.
There is only one dud out of those movies. The rest were at least good if not great. So that helps a lot. I guess a lot hinges on how DP goes. People "accepted this treatment" of the X-Men through this FC trilogy to get to the A-List characters on the timeline. We are at that point now. So like I said, hopefully DP makes it worth the wait.
the tittle of a team.
but... the X-Men are a team of characters, and there is a core team, after 50 years of comics history. General audience of course has no idea of this core team, because the franchise hasnt captured it that well.
It's an idea that is referenced again in APOCALYPSE, as Beast wants Charles to utilize the concept again.