10.9 - Patriot - Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

i figure if the aquaman series would have gotten picked up, then we would have seen everything that was crammed into 1 sentence in this episode. actually see him become a leader of his people. such a shame.
 
^ pretty much. And Smallville would've had a VERY different Green Arrow.

BTW has it been confirmed that Ritchson is coming back again this year?
 
If he's coming back, I hope he bring Mera with him again!
 
Yeah, i was impressed by A.C. this time around. I hated him the first time he showed up, but he was very solid this time around.
 
Would be nice if ac is back again maybe he could. We will have to see. As for the talk about the krypto cage. I mentioned this on the last two pages. Don't know if any one saw it. But it was pretty logical for what they did. As it was mentioned slade had a special transforming metal that would turn into x hero weakness. So we saw it harm mera, and turn to kryptonite for clark. The easiest thing to say when base started to go, the metal lost power and reverted back to normal state. And clark probably easily got away.
 
i figure if the aquaman series would have gotten picked up, then we would have seen everything that was crammed into 1 sentence in this episode.

Nah. It would have been a Gough & Milar show. The show would have lasted 10 years and Aquaman would have been a guy with too much self-doubt who's constantly being reminded of his destiny. And then there would have been 7 seasons of him romancing some chick who's ultimately irrelevant to his future. And his future enemy would start as his best friend. You know the drill.
 
Would be nice if ac is back again maybe he could. We will have to see. As for the talk about the krypto cage. I mentioned this on the last two pages. Don't know if any one saw it. But it was pretty logical for what they did. As it was mentioned slade had a special transforming metal that would turn into x hero weakness. So we saw it harm mera, and turn to kryptonite for clark. The easiest thing to say when base started to go, the metal lost power and reverted back to normal state. And clark probably easily got away.


Just another brutal loophole for them to jump through with green K or any K exposed to Clark and how it doesn't affect him. He was barely even weakened by the cage, and the fact that the bad guy sat there while the place was about to explode without knowing that the cage would power down and let Clark free? Why would they go through the troubles of spending all that time and $$$$ to build an underwater prison like that with no fail safe for something like that? It's a cheap copout and they didn't even offer an excuse. How did the bad guy even escape? Lame excuses in the last season don't cut it anymore.
 
Just another brutal loophole for them to jump through with green K or any K exposed to Clark and how it doesn't affect him. He was barely even weakened by the cage, and the fact that the bad guy sat there while the place was about to explode without knowing that the cage would power down and let Clark free? Why would they go through the troubles of spending all that time and $$$$ to build an underwater prison like that with no fail safe for something like that? It's a cheap copout and they didn't even offer an excuse. How did the bad guy even escape? Lame excuses in the last season don't cut it anymore.
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Nah. It would have been a Gough & Milar show. The show would have lasted 10 years and Aquaman would have been a guy with too much self-doubt who's constantly being reminded of his destiny. And then there would have been 7 seasons of him romancing some chick who's ultimately irrelevant to his future. And his future enemy would start as his best friend. You know the drill.

yea probably wouldn't have learned to swim till the final season,lol. i hear ya. frustrations a plenty
 
I said it a few times here but I think Elena Satine would make a perfect Mary Jane but could also be a good Lana Lang.

MJ HELL YES, Ms. lang not now not ever. Elena as got more of MJ's attributes than she does of Ms. lang.
 
Nah. It would have been a Gough & Milar show. The show would have lasted 10 years and Aquaman would have been a guy with too much self-doubt who's constantly being reminded of his destiny. And then there would have been 7 seasons of him romancing some chick who's ultimately irrelevant to his future. And his future enemy would start as his best friend. You know the drill.

yea probably wouldn't have learned to swim till the final season,lol. i hear ya. frustrations a plenty

Have you guys seen the Aquaman pilot with Justin Hartley? It was nothing like Smallville.
 
I didn't see this yet, but I saw a screencap of Mera and AC with the mushroom cloud explosion behind them: please tell me someone thoight of True Lies from that shot.

I was actually thinking of "Watchmen" when I saw that scene.
 
Well as for how slade survived he could have easily not lived through the place going up. And who ever it was darkseid minions or the govt that fished him up just used his body for there own games. Think like metallo how luthorcorp was working on him in his return episode. Slade could just been an empty shell to be remade into deathstroke. As for the cage sure it is like a copout there. But it logical as I said when base started to go the special metal lost its power source deactivated. I don't see how that is a bad thing.really if a base was going up it would be loosing power and decives would turn off. And/or explode and be in pecies what ever. But on the topic of kryptonite itsself, they have always been inconstant with how much and how weakend he would. Be.
 
Did they do a Vigilante Regisration Act in the books? It obviously seemed VERY much like it was ripped out of Marbel's Mutant Registration and Superhero Registration Acts, but I dont know enough about DC to know if they did it as well
 
Oh totally the aquaman pilot was great. It could have made for an interesting show for them to do. Really its downfall was the wb going down and the merger with upn. The act/law is a common thing both dc and marvel have done for decades. Most folks who are not that knowleadable on that just think they are ripping civial war from marvel since that's the most recent thing comics have done.
 
The concept has been explored both with Marvel and DC over the years. Here is an excerpt about DC Comics and the JSA:

DC Universe
In DC Comics' DC Universe the Justice Society of America chose to disband in 1951 rather than appear in front of the House Un-American Activities Committee, which demanded that they unmask themselves. This was first shown in a back-up story in Adventure Comics (vol. 1) #466 ("The Defeat of the Justice Society!"; December 1979) by writer Paul Levitz and subsequently further explored in the America vs. The Justice Society 4 issue limited series (January–April 1985) by writers Roy and Dann Thomas.
There is also a piece of legislation called the "Keene Act" (an apparent reference to Watchmen, see below) in the DC Universe. First mentioned in Suicide Squad (vol. 1) #1 (May 1987) in a story written by John Ostrander, the "Act" is referred to as a piece of legislation from 1961 which gives prisons greater leeway in imprisoning superhumans than ordinary prisoners.
It was more fully explored in Secret Origins (vol. 3) #14 (May 1987), again written by Ostrander, where it is revealed that the Act was passed in 1961 and it reaffirmed the right (that had been cast into doubt by HUAC in 1951) of superheroes to operate with secret identities. That story also reveals that the later "Ingersoll Amendment" (a reference to lawyer and comics writer Bob Ingersoll) to the Keene Act, which delineates governmental authority over superhuman activity in times of crisis, was passed into law in 1972.

LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registration_acts_(comics)
 
The act/law is a common thing both dc and marvel have done for decades. Most folks who are not that knowleadable on that just think they are ripping civial war from marvel since that's the most recent thing comics have done.

Althought you have to admit that the way Oliver Queen did his press annoucement "I Am Green Arrow" was excatly like how Tony Stark did in the movie .

And the Registration sgining scene in this episode matched the same panel from Civil War after Peter Parker revealed to the world he was Spider-Man and Tony basically said the samething Slade said about this being the first Hero to come forward yadda yadda....
 
Oh sure its simular to how marvel studios did it in im1 but really there is only s many ways a hero to out himself. So I still have no issue with how they did it. As for slade/ollie stuff I also still don't have a problem how it went down.
 
Althought you have to admit that the way Oliver Queen did his press annoucement "I Am Green Arrow" was excatly like how Tony Stark did in the movie .

And the Registration sgining scene in this episode matched the same panel from Civil War after Peter Parker revealed to the world he was Spider-Man and Tony basically said the samething Slade said about this being the first Hero to come forward yadda yadda....
I think that SV is doing it's own version of The 80's Legends storyline/Final Crisis where Darkseid and his henchmen are manipiulating the people to hate and fear superheroes as well as using the Anti-Life equation to take over earth and he and his minions are on earth is disguises in order to manipulate the people
 
I hope they don't turn Lois into Watchtower because that's becoming too much and it diminishes Clark as a superhero. Tess is doing an incredible job so far as the new Watchtower. :super:
 

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