Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania

[psylockolussus]

Some of those movies slated for next year will definitely be moved into 2025. I think they should do 3 movies again for 2024. Delay Thunderbolts into the fall.

Fall 2024already has Blade/Deadpool though. From May 2024 to Nov 2024, we are getting 4 movies. Every 2 months.

I hope they delay Deadpool to July 2025, but I'm guessing its a pre Kang Dynasty story so it won't be delayed.

I think they are now reaching the too many projects in so little time phase. Aside from the X-Men, I hope they don't give a new ip its own movie again. Shang-Chi and Eternals have yet to get a 2quel. Who knows how long we are going to get a 3quel for Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel and Black Panther. I doubt Disney has intentions for Thunderbolts, Fantastic 4, Blade and Deadpool to be one and dones. Its a lot of ips. And there's still Spider-Man. I hope Marvel Studios doesn't make a Thor 5, Ant-Man 4 and Captain America 5.

 

[Venom 1988]

Fall 2024already has Blade/Deadpool though. From May 2024 to Nov 2024, we are getting 4 movies. Every 2 months.

I think he's aware of that. If they are really concerned about spacing out their projects, I wouldn't be surprised both Avengers movies get delayed by a year respectively. Whenever Spider-Man 4 gets officially announced and injected into the scheudle, it's definitely gonna push out several of these movies.

 

[psylockolussus]

I think he's aware of that. If they are really concerned about spacing out their projects, I wouldn't be surprised both Avengers movies get delayed by a year respectively. Whenever Spider-Man 4 gets officially announced and injected into the scheudle, it's definitely gonna push out several of these movies.

I think since the two untitled 2025 movies aren't announced yet. They could delay a 2024 movie to 2025. For me, it would be Fantastic 4, The Kang Dynasty and Deadpool v. Wolverine: Dawn of foXverse in 2025.

Then in 2026, keep Secret Wars and release two more movies (Feb/Nov).

I don't know where would I put Spider-Man but since its a co production. I don't mind if its released in the same year as 3 mcu movies.

But Marvel Studios really should retire the older ips. I don't think they should keep this 4 to 6 year wait for sequels forever. Something like Eternals 2 and Blade 2, might not afford that at the boX office.

 

[Venom 1988]

I think since the two untitled 2025 movies aren't announced yet. They could delay a 2024 movie to 2025. For me, it would be Fantastic 4, The Kang Dynasty and Deadpool v. Wolverine: Dawn of foXverse in 2025.

Then in 2026, keep Secret Wars and release two more movies (Feb/Nov).

I don't know where would I put Spider-Man but since its a co production. I don't mind if its released in the same year as 3 mcu movies.

But Marvel Studios really should retire the older ips. I don't think they should keep this 4 to 6 year wait for sequels forever. Something like Eternals 2 and Blade 2, might not afford that at the boX office.

I suppose so but I just don't see it at this point in time. With everything Feige has said recently, I'm expecting them to push a lot of these movies back and potentially scale back to 3 movies a year (with the exception to whatever year Spidey 4 is going to be released). Again, I could be wrong but I'm expecting them to delay Kang Dynasty to 2026 and Secret Wars to 2027.

 

[psylockolussus]

Hmm they already started the ball rolling with Kang, so I don't know if its a good idea to delay both Avengers film for 1 year. I think the move of Secret Wars to 2026 is good enough.

We don't know the 3 untitled Marvel movies inbetween Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars, but two of those if not really that important to the Kang Storyline could be moved to phase 7. I think with the numbers that Quantumania is getting, I don't think its the best time to release 4 Mcu films a year. Thunderbolts, Fantastic 4 and Blade aren't Iron Man/Avengers level yet so it would benefit them for these films to be spaced out more.

Guardians/Deadpool regardless if they do well or drop like a rock at the boX office, they already secured a trilogy. While I see Captain Marvel doing as well as Love & Thunder at the boX office. New World Order feels like Bourne Legacy of MCU, like I'll believe when I see it that Sam Wilson is gonna headline 2 more solo films after it.

 

[Venom 1988]

We got Thanos in 2012 and we didn't properly see his full story play off until 6 years later. If you want to compare that to Kang, it's 4 years. So a year delay isn't going to hurt anything.

 

[Evil Twin]

I think since the two untitled 2025 movies aren't announced yet. They could delay a 2024 movie to 2025. For me, it would be Fantastic 4, The Kang Dynasty and Deadpool v. Wolverine: Dawn of foXverse in 2025.

Then in 2026, keep Secret Wars and release two more movies (Feb/Nov).

I don't know where would I put Spider-Man but since its a co production. I don't mind if its released in the same year as 3 mcu movies.

But Marvel Studios really should retire the older ips. I don't think they should keep this 4 to 6 year wait for sequels forever. Something like Eternals 2 and Blade 2, might not afford that at the boX office.

It's also worth considering that Mahershala Ali is 49. Yes, stunt men and cgi doubles will be deployed, but the window where he is believable is probably closing fast.

 

[Yellow Cyclone]

It's also worth considering that Mahershala Ali is 49. Yes, stunt men and cgi doubles will be deployed, but the window where he is believable is probably closing fast.

black don't crack, he's fine lol

samuel l is 74

 

[Zyraquis]

Neither do Asians, Michelle Yeoh is 60 and is still kicking butts in action movies.

 

[psylockolussus]

It's also worth considering that Mahershala Ali is 49. Yes, stunt men and cgi doubles will be deployed, but the window where he is believable is probably closing fast.

They could always use stunt doubles.

Though if they plan to do a trilogy, I hope they don't wait 4 years for every new sequel.

 

[Sithborg]

black don't crack, he's fine lol

samuel l is 74

And moved like it in Capt Marvel. Ali is fine, but a trilogy is probably unlikely.

 

[psylockolussus]

We got Thanos in 2012 and we didn't properly see his full story play off until 6 years later. If you want to compare that to Kang, it's 4 years. So a year delay isn't going to hurt anything.

That was a cameo though.

We already saw Kang in a Supporting role and a guest role. I honestly prefer if they end this Multiverse Saga by 2026, so they could be done with the multiverse and variants sooner than in 2027.

Also delaying both films 1 year later, means they would need to move up certain films and I don't know if thats a good thing.

 

[Venom 1988]

That was a cameo though.

We already saw Kang in a Supporting role and a guest role. I honestly prefer if they end this Multiverse Saga by 2026, so they could be done with the multiverse and variants sooner than in 2027.

Also delaying both films 1 year later, means they would need to move up certain films and I don't know if thats a good thing.

You're literally advocating for them to rush through to all this so they they can be done sooner. That's your only reason...just cause you want it done. If they do and the quality continues to diminish, that's not going to help anyone. You just said in another thread that you ranked Quantumania as your worst MCU movie. You want the next several movies movies to rank that low too? And no they wouldn't need to move up any movies. If they switch gears to 3 movies a year, based on what has been already annouced, they don't need to bump anything up.

 

[psylockolussus]

You're literally advocating for them to rush through to all this so they they can be done sooner. That's your only reason...just cause you want it done. If they do and the quality continues to diminish, that's not going to help anyone. You just said in another thread that you ranked Quantumania as your worst MCU movie. You want the next several movies movies to rank that low too? And no they wouldn't need to move up any movies. If they switch gears to 3 movies a year, based on what has been already annouced, they don't need to bump anything up.

Eh. I don't see how I'm rushing anything. Its still two Avengers movies just not being delayed to 2026/2027.

And we don't know the story of other phase 5/6 movies. For all we know, the multiverse is only relevant in the post credits in those movies.

Its not like I'm removing movies inphase 5 and 6 that are highly crucial in Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars. We don't know anything in those mystery films, for you to conclude I'm rushing the Multiverse Saga. I want All announced movies to still happen, Deadpool delayed to 2024 , and the 2 mystery phase 6 films to be moved to phase 7.

Also as for quality control, go read my previous posts. I don't want them to pump out 4 shows and 4 movies per year. But that doesn't mean i would want Avengers to be delayed as well... like okay.

Maybe I want the Multiverse Saga to be over sooner so they wouldn't pro long and drag a storyline more than they should...

 

[Closerframe]

Ant-Man: Quantumania Writer on Negative Reviews: Sad and Surprised - Variety

“I’m like, ‘Goddamn! No, [the reviews] are wrong! I’m right! MODOK is great!’” he said of watching the film on opening weekend. “I’m pretty happy with it overall, and I think I learned how to take a punch this week. And now that I learned that it’s not too bad, I can just get on with making things.”

OMG, this makes me even more worried for Kang Dynasty.

 

[psylockolussus]

I hope they don't bring back that writer. The script is the weakest part of the film. Also the character development for the other characters was left out the window. What else more if he worked in Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars.

 

[Iceman]

Damn, that’s horrendous. Film is going to disappear in a few weeks at that rate.

 

[psylockolussus]

Damn, that’s horrendous. Film is going to disappear in a few weeks at that rate.

Not really, if you are already a Disney+ subscriber.

 

[DyeLorean]

Am I remembering correctly? That there were reports that Marvel was so happy with Loveness writing in Quantumania that he was hired for Kang Dynasty?
Between this and Eternals "being their best", I don't think I'm trusting Marvel's judgement anymore...

 

[Iceman]

Not really, if you are already a Disney+ subscriber.

Well, talking about in terms of making money at the cinema. The film will of course still exist to view on Disney +, and I guess a lot of people will be watching it there instead.

 

[Iceman]

Am I remembering correctly? That there were reports that Marvel was so happy with Loveness writing in Quantumania that he was hired for Kang Dynasty?
Between this and Eternals "being their best", I don't think I'm trusting Marvel's judgement anymore...

Did they say Eternals was their best? I guess it might have looked much better on paper before knowing how the pacing and other issues would affect it.

 

[DyeLorean]

Did they say Eternals was their best? I guess it might have looked much better on paper before knowing how the pacing and other issues would affect it.

Yeah, they were pretty confident about it.

 

[psylockolussus]

Am I remembering correctly? That there were reports that Marvel was so happy with Loveness writing in Quantumania that he was hired for Kang Dynasty?
Between this and Eternals "being their best", I don't think I'm trusting Marvel's judgement anymore...

They should be considering getting another writer for that film... Phase 5 is off to a bad start. Anyway they want have 2 years and 2 months til its out.

 

[DyeLorean]

I haven't seen Quantumania yet so I can't really say anything, but the Avengers films are special.
I'm sure they are not going to rely on that one guy.

 

[Iceman]

Yeah, they were pretty confident about it.

Wonder how they feel about it now. That itself should change the internal testing/feedback procedure as they know that something that they viewed positively didn't get that same reception once released.