X-Men - Part 8

[psylockolussus]

The Greg Land cover isn't the worst from those 3.

But I instantly recognized the artwork from Greg Land. He has a signature facial expressions for the characters he draws...

 

[Weather Witch]

Talon, aka old lady Laura, is dead. And considering that she is Duggan's pet character, I don't expect her to come back in the relaunch.

I was thinking "who ever stays dead", but honestly given that she's really a Duggan character, you're probably right.

 

[blueharvest]

Marvel Comics Writer Claims Kevin Feige Ordered Kamala Khan Death for MCU Synergy - IGN

Kevin Feige was reportedly the true mastermind behind Kamala Khan's death in 2023's The Amazing Spider-Man #26, a move designed to boost synergy between the comics and MCU.

www.ign.com

 

[psylockolussus]

Now that the Krakoa has fallen, can anyone give a list of characters that are now "killed permanently"?

 

[Sithborg]

Probably not going to know that till HOXPOX 2 is over.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I plan on getting back into X-Men with the relaunch but....none of these teams are really speaking to me.

I need the Storm solo and see who the creative team is. Marvel better give her an A-list team.

 

[Weather Witch]

Marvel better give her an A-list team.

From your mouth to god's ear. It's meant to be an ongoing like the other books in the new lineup, right?

 

[Weather Witch]

As much I've enjoyed Gillen's work, I wasn't a huge fan of Xavier's fake betrayal and them conveniently leaving behind all the inhabitants of Krakoa so that From The Ashes doesn't have to deal with them. Though I did enjoy the endings of both Rise #4 and Forever #2.

 

[Venom 1988]

As much I've enjoyed Gillen's work, I wasn't a huge fan of Xavier's fake betrayal and them conveniently leaving behind all the inhabitants of Krakoa so that From The Ashes doesn't have to deal with them. Though I did enjoy the endings of both Rise #4 and Forever #2.

I'm a bit behind, so I'm waiting for the trade but where did they leave all Krakoa inhabitants?

 

[Weather Witch]

I'm a bit behind, so I'm waiting for the trade but where did they leave all Krakoa inhabitants?

In the white hot room. Just Kafka and the background ones from Immortal of course, but it's still meant to be about 250,000 Mutants. While the main named heroes return to the conflict. Gillen's writing does kinda seem to imply it's an editorial decision.

 

[Sithborg]

As much I've enjoyed Gillen's work, I wasn't a huge fan of Xavier's fake betrayal and them conveniently leaving behind all the inhabitants of Krakoa so that From The Ashes doesn't have to deal with them. Though I did enjoy the endings of both Rise #4 and Forever #2.

Fairly certain the betrayal was Duggan's call.

 

[Weather Witch]

Fairly certain the betrayal was Duggan's call.

Would admittedly make sense with it showing up in his book first. Guess it's moreso Gillen's books being dragged down a bit by other's decisions then.

 

[Venom 1988]

In the white hot room. Just Kafka and the background ones from Immortal of course, but it's still meant to be about 250,000 Mutants. While the main named heroes return to the conflict. Gillen's writing does kinda seem to imply it's an editorial decision.

Thanks. So just reading a quick wiki online Is this where these all the mutants that supposedly got killed off during the last Gala when they went through the gateways? Hm so they're basically a limbo state until further notice.. Dunno how to feel about that.

 

[Weather Witch]

Thanks. So just reading a quick wiki online Is this where these all the mutants that supposedly got killed off during the last Gala when they went through the gateways? Hm so they're basically a limbo state until further notice.. Dunno how to feel about that.

Yeah, it's that entire group minus all the A-list named characters.

 

[psylockolussus]

Adjectiveless - Cyclops, Beast, Kwannon, Magik, Magneto, Juggernaut, Oya, Quentin
Uncanny - Logan, Nightcrawler, Rogue, Gambit, Jubilee
Exceptional - Kitty, Emma, Bronze, Axo, Melee
X-Force - Forge, Betsy, Rachel, Sage, Surge, Tank
NYX - Kamala, Laura, Anole, Prodigy, Sophie
X-Factor - ?

Solo titles: Phoenix, Storm, Wolverine

I hope this new status quo is easier to follow. Because when Age of Krakoa was launched. Besides Adjectiveless, I was reading Marauders, Hellions, Excalibur, X-Factor and X-Force. I ended dropping all of them except for Adjectiveless.

I plan to read Adjectiveless and Uncanny. I will try to see X-Force, Exceptional and X-Factor (even if I don't know the line up yet). NYX feels like a temporary title. All the solos are instant skips for me.

I am on the fence with Exceptional, because I'm not sure how the new characters are going to end up after 3 years. Its basically another "New Mutants/Mutant Academy X/New X-Men/Young X-Men/Wolverine and the X-Men" but with a smaller group with 2 mentors who would likely outshine the new characters.

 

[Sithborg]

You forgot Gen X in your list.

 

[psylockolussus]

I didn't forget anything based from this:

From the Ashes: Marvel's Ambitious X-Men Relaunch Revealed - IGN

Marvel is reviving NYX as part of its X-Men: From the Ashes relaunch, and both Ms. Marvel and X-23 will star in the new series.

www.ign.com

Gen X is news to me.

 

[Sithborg]

I meant your list of "The next generation of X-men". It goes New Mutants, Gen X, New X-men/Academy X, Wolverine & the X-men.

 

[psylockolussus]

I don't see Generation X similar to those other comic books. New Mutants, New X-Men, Academy X, Young X-Men, Wolverine and the X-Men, Generation Hope - the members of those teams were being trained as the next X-Men. Generation X wasn't.

 

[Sebastos]

 

[Sebastos]

 

[BoredGuy]

^4 of my faves on one team
really hope its good

 

[psylockolussus]

Adjectiveless - Cyclops, Beast, Kwannon, Magik, Magneto, Juggernaut, Oya, Quentin
Uncanny - Logan, Nightcrawler, Rogue, Gambit, Jubilee
Exceptional - Kitty, Emma, Bronze, Axo, Melee
X-Force - Forge, Betsy, Rachel, Sage, Surge, Tank
NYX - Kamala, Laura, Anole, Prodigy, Sophie
X-Factor - Angel, Havok, Pyro, Frenzy, Feral

Solo titles: Phoenix, Storm, Wolverine

 

[Sithborg]

X-factor is Mark Russell and Bob Quinn. I liked Quinn on Knights of X.

Sounds like a fusion of the original X-factor set up and the post Xtinction Agenda set up. Havok is an interesting choice, given, well, his domme is probably wanting him around....

 

[psylockolussus]

I wish they would utilize Angel in the actual X-Men team rather a splinter team again. I can't remember the last time Angel was in Uncanny X-Men/Adjectiveless. Maybe late 2000s in the San Francisco era?

Also weirdly, Iceman and Colossus are not in any team. I would have liked Polaris to be in a X-Men as well (like swap her with Magneto). Storm and Jean are relegated to solo books which won't last long anyway, yet Logan gets to have his solo book again, and at the same time also appear in Uncanny... like geez.

But this doesn't seem overwhelming compare to the Age of Krakoa launch in 2019, so that's a plus point.