Superhero Cinematic Civil War - Part 57

[Predator jp]

do kids in the states watch anime?

 

[Detective Conan]

That whole 1940s/1950s era of cartoons were incredibly well produced, the Fleischer Superman, Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry, all the Warner Bros/Tex Avery stuff was top notch. Maybe because they spent more time and resources on them back in the day as opposed to now where theyre rushing it out.

Every time I re-watch the Fleischer Superman cartoons, I'm blown away by how good their animation looks compared to most stuff today.

One thing to keep in mind is that the Fleischer Superman cartoons and most of the cartoons at the time were produced for theaters, not television. They were theatrical short animated films. Which is why the animation quality is much higher than most of the modern cartoons actually made for television. So comparing them to modern television animation is a tad unfair, I think.

That being said, I think the gold standard for television superhero animation is still the DCAU - particularly STAS and JLU. Those 90’s Batman/Superman crossover specials are still some of the best pieces of animation work I’ve seen, and it clearly holds up against most 2D animated superhero stuff today.

 

[Detective Conan]

do kids in the states watch anime?

Of course! If they read manga, then they surely watch anime. Though I find a lot of the anime that the youngsters are into aren’t really my thing like My Hero Academia and One Punch Man. Which is ironic, considering those aforementioned shows are about superheroes and I’m literally posting on a forum called Superherohype because of my love of that stuff.

If you’re only talking about really little kids they still like some Pokémon.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

do kids in the states watch anime?

Sure do.

I’m 31, but my generation grew up on Dragon Ball Z/GT, Gundam Wing, Sailor Moon and YuYu Hakusho. We had Cartoon Network to thank for that exposure. But I also liked a plethora of others like Fist of the North Star and Bubblegum Crisis.

A lot of the kids these days are into Naruto.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Anime is one of those niche things I just never got into. Buddy of mine tried getting me to watch DragonBall Z back in the day, and I absolutely hated it. I know people love those shows, but I just can't do them. Also a different buddy had me watch some Inuyasha, and I thought it was fine but I never was so hooked I watched it regularly.

I am sure there is an Anime I would watch and love. But I just never felt like seeking it out.

 

[Sithborg]

My whole thing with animation these days is that they all look the same, nothing really has distinction. All of them have that anime look to them, they recycle the same voice actors in every project (Tara Strong I love you, but damn) it’s always more of the same.

Thank God we had Animaniacs, Dexter’s Lab, Batman and 90s Nicktoons (which I can’t believe half of them got past the censors) in our day.

Its even worse in anime dub. Oh, hi Johnny Young Bosch. At least Vic Mignogna has been mainly blacklisted. It is one reason why the recent demands for POC to voice POC doesn't really bother me. Just to add more diversity to the stable of voice actors.

 

[Detective Conan]

I’m much more of a manga person than I am an anime fan.

 

[Zarex]

An unfortunate casualty of the Disney acquisition, they dedicated all of their animated fare squarely towards children and even worse; the animation on those series are REALLY cheap and poor, probably because of the demographic theyre aiming at.

Marvel's animated offerings from 2012 appear to have been an attempt to indoctrinate the kiddies into the cinematic MCU, with characters, designs and plots that mostly mimicked their live action big brothers. There's been some good stuff - both the Rocket & Groot and Ant-Man shorts were well done - but overall it has been awful.

MODOK, the only Marvel Entertainment animated show to escape the Feige knife, is launching Friday on HULU and getting solid reviews. I thought this was going to be a one-and-done ala Helstrom. But in a recent interview Mr. Oswalt said Feige hisownself was complimentary toward the show. Hopefully we will get other adult oriented animation - I still want Deadpool from the Glover brothers! - and more interesting fare going forward.

do kids in the states watch anime?

At the time I didn't know it was anime, but two of my favorite shows (way) back in the day were Speed Racer and Kimba the White Lion.

 

[kguillou]

I don't mind cartoons being for kids because, well, they should be. But I guess i'm coming from a perspective of cartoons dont need to be braindead either or talk down to children. I, and I presume a lot of you, were indoctrinated into Marvel and DC through cartoons also, spiderman TAS, X-Men, Batman and Superman TAS. Those cartoons were all for kids but had great writing and story telling and character development and they acted as sort of primers for the comic books themselves.

I think kids today, in this technology and information age we live in where every 4 year old has their own ipad and cellphone, are much smarter and more savvy than we give them credit for. There's no reason to dumb down the material to them.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Anime is one of those niche things I just never got into. Buddy of mine tried getting me to watch DragonBall Z back in the day, and I absolutely hated it. I know people love those shows, but I just can't do them. Also a different buddy had me watch some Inuyasha, and I thought it was fine but I never was so hooked I watched it regularly.

I am sure there is an Anime I would watch and love. But I just never felt like seeking it out.

Yeah I’m sure there’s some anime out there that I would really connect to but any time I’ve tried to get into it, I haven’t been able to. Akira was pretty rad but other than that, I’ve never gotten into anime.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Anime is one of those niche things I just never got into. Buddy of mine tried getting me to watch DragonBall Z back in the day, and I absolutely hated it. I know people love those shows, but I just can't do them. Also a different buddy had me watch some Inuyasha, and I thought it was fine but I never was so hooked I watched it regularly.

I am sure there is an Anime I would watch and love. But I just never felt like seeking it out.

You sound like one of my friends who loathes DBZ. He watched a few episodes and was like “Why the f is everyone so loud?!” “Why do they yell so much in these fights?”

I laughed for a couple days off that reaction.

 

[Spider-Fan]

You sound like one of my friends who loathes DBZ. He watched a few episodes and was like “Why the f is everyone so loud?!” “Why do they yell so much in these fights?”

I laughed for a couple days off that reaction.

What really killed it for me was the pacing and the repetition. It just amounts to guys fighting for like 10 seconds, trash talking about the 10 seconds of fighting they just had for like 10 minutes and rinse repeat for like 10 episodes. Oh, and they power up sometimes. It just isn't for me, lol.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

do kids in the states watch anime?

Sure do and English licensors like Funimation and Crunchyroll are worth billions. Anime has never been as big in America as it is now and the pandemic just made it more so because it was still being made last year when other entertainment options weren't.

 

[Detective Conan]

Happy one year anniversary to the day it was announced a billion dollar company waved the white flag and capitulated to the demands of fans annoying three year-long spamming campaign to release the directors cut of a film that flopped three years ago.



Was anyone of you surprised when the Snyder Cut was finally announced?

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

What really killed it for me was the pacing and the repetition. It just amounts to guys fighting for like 10 seconds, trash talking about the 10 seconds of fighting they just had for like 10 minutes and rinse repeat for like 10 episodes. Oh, and they power up sometimes. It just isn't for me, lol.

There is a reason it is sometimes known as Drag On Ball. And there were a lot of battle shounen afterwards that followed a similar model like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail, etc. It is less so these days as a more western-style seasonal format has become more common.

If you want to try another battle shounen, I would recommend Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood. That's only around 70 episodes and the pacing is a lot better. Or something like Kill la Kill at 25 episodes, which technically isn't shounen but is a similar style. Netflix and Hulu have lots of anime so you don't need to subscribe to another service.

 

[Sithborg]

At times I think you need a guide to help get into anime, without the big introductions that my gen had with Toonami and stuff like 4kids. Because if you wander into the the wrong show, hoooboy, that can turn you off of anime easily.

I mean, I wouldn't recommend my favorite anime because, ooofff, it has some stuff in it.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

At times I think you need a guide to help get into anime, without the big introductions that my gen had with Toonami and stuff like 4kids. Because if you wander into the the wrong show, hoooboy, that can turn you off of anime easily.

I mean, I wouldn't recommend my favorite anime because, ooofff, it has some stuff in it.

My favorite anime is loaded with incest, sex, and lesbians, so I feel for you.

It is

Spoiler

Revolutionary Girl Utena

.

It's a lot better than it sounds.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

There are a lot of problematic things in anime that you just cringe at. I never knew why it was okay for 14 year old Sailor Moon to have a college aged boyfriend that she always has to end up rescuing.

Her parents failed her lol.

 

[Detective Conan]

There is a reason it is sometimes known as Drag On Ball. And there were a lot of battle shounen afterwards that followed a similar model like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, Fairy Tail, etc. It is less so these days as a more western-style seasonal format has become more common.

If you want to try another battle shounen, I would recommend Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood. That's only around 70 episodes and the pacing is a lot better. Or something like Kill la Kill at 25 episodes, which technically isn't shounen but is a similar style. Netflix and Hulu have lots of anime so you don't need to subscribe to another service.

I wonder if @Spider-Fan would like the first Dragon Ball better. That always struck as more of a fun adventure sci-if comedy series than the more epic, battle-oriented nature of Z.

Then again, early Dragon Ball has a lot of pervy humor so probably not, lol.

 

[Web-Head]

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

LOL she killed that really quick.

But that has to be annoying, but it’s part of the job.

 

[Detective Conan]

Off-topic: R.I.P Kentaro Miura-san, creator of Berserk. Now we will never know how Guts’s journey ends but at least we know you’re in a better place, sensei. What a shocking and heartbreaking loss for the manga industry.

 

[Web-Head]

LOL she killed that really quick.

But that has to be annoying, but it’s part of the job.

I do feel a little bit bad but like you said, it's part of the job.

I can understand why the press does it but she's there to promote A Quiet Place II not talk about Fantastic Four.

 

[Detective Conan]

RIP to this boring fancast.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I bet next time she sees a Fantastic Four comic, she is gonna rip it in half lol