This is all I could think about when watching that pretentious snoozefest of a show:Andor worship
What was the point of the Dagobah cave?Yeah, I’m still into this series but that whole Anakin/World Between Worlds sequence just left me scratching my head. I don’t need to be spoonfed stuff but I’m honestly not sure what the point of it was, other that to waste time and then I guess make Ahsoka so zen that towards the end of the episode, she comes off like the Dude listening to bowling sounds.
I guess what was frustrating was that it just felt like filler to me. I hope it does, and it wasn’t just fan service to whoever really needs to see Hayden again.
This is all I could think about when watching that pretentious snoozefest of a show:
and then I guess make Ahsoka so zen that towards the end of the episode, she comes off like the Dude listening to bowling sounds.
Compelling? Its the Star Wars equivalent of a Nolan movie. Grade school material that makes people feel smart because they "get it".What made it a "snoozefest" for you? The compelling themes, story, and characters?
1. It's a test of Luke. Yoda tells him not to bring his weapons into the cave, but does so anyways. Forcing him into a confrontation. Luke will do this again when deciding to rush off the Cloud City.What was the point of the Dagobah cave?
Oh yes, Nolan's a terrible storyteller. I agree.Compelling? Its the Star Wars equivalent of a Nolan movie. Grade school material that makes people feel smart because they "get it".
1. It's a test of Luke. Yoda tells him not to bring his weapons into the cave, but does so anyways. Forcing him into a confrontation. Luke will do this again when deciding to rush off the Cloud City.
2. It's a warning of the pull of the dark side. Luke has demonstrated a lack of emotional maturity and emotional balance, defaults to fear. And as a wise little green puppet friend once said:
3. The cave is telling Luke that big D is his papa. As Luke has shown, what makes Luke most vulnerable to the dark side, is his care for his loved ones. It's where his fear and anger is generated at it's most potent. Also his hope.
Let's see if you can. After all, you made the comparsions.Good now apply that same critical thinking to this.
First tell me what exactly is so good about it. Because we see the first bedroom scene in Star Wars? Because Mon Mothma is having a year long dinner party where she is constantly looking pensive? Because they escape a jail? Because its completely humorless and drab? None of this stuff is deep.Oh yes, Nolan's a terrible storyteller. I agree.
So uh, what are you suppose to get in Andor exactly that is "grade school material"?
You quoted me first and said it has "grade school material". So let's hear what you think that is. I'm not going to give you the answers so you can throw them back at me.First tell me what exactly is so good about it. Because we see the first bedroom scene in Star Wars? Because Mon Mothma is having a year long dinner party where she is constantly looking pensive? Because they escape a jail? Because its completely humorless and drab? None of this stuff is deep.
My favorite Star Wars "meal" is The Empire Strikes Back. Then it's The Force Awakens. I love the PT and ST. I love Solo, Rebels, TCW, and The Bad Batch. The Aphra and Vader comics have made me very happy. I'm not hard to please and Ahsoka isn't trying to be anything new or different for Star Wars that I've known and loved. The problem it's bad at what it's trying to be. It lacks the depth, good storytelling, characters, and filmmaking prowess of the actual "grand operatic SW ****".
I think it's super weird that you're stating Andor is the "personal SW" when that's exactly what Ahsoka is trying to be. But it fails as it's all surface level and lacks anything outside of recalling past scenes from superior films/shows.
When I think of good Star Wars, I think about how it brings story, themes, and characters all together with memorable performances, lines, scenes, fights, etc. I think of some of the most beautiful films I've ever seen. It produced emotions beyond, I remember that line or character. Ahsoka isn't doing that. Andor did. For all it does different, it also is just really, really, really good Star Wars. Just like The Empire Strikes Back was. Nothing on Ahsoka is approaching's this "operatic ****".
Good now apply that same critical thinking to this.
Guess I can give it a shot. Break down what I took away from it, both this episode and the set-up for this last week. It's long-winded, so I'll put in spoiler tags.To ne frank, I keep coming up with about 3 reasons for this vision. None of which was mentioned previously in the show. Was it that she gave up on life, in many ways? Was it that she needed to change her path? That she was scared of what Anakin ended up becoming? None of the stuff dealt with Anakin and Ahsoka had anything to do with the previous established issue of Ahsoka and Sabine's failure of training. And to be quite frank, so much of that "conversation" freaking vague. There was good to be had here, but there was also so, so much wasted potential. "I've heard that before", just completely bypassing the giant robot in the room.
Basically this, but with a lot more words.It seems directly related to the things Baylon said to her during their duel about her being part of a legacy of violence, and her feeling like teaching Sabine how to fight as a Jedi would continue that failed legacy
Lol... Was anybody else expecting Ahsoka to pull a Finding Dory and start talking in whale to the Purrgils?
"Caaaaaaaan youuuuuu giiiive usssss a riiiiiiide?"
LOL Finding Ezmo?
Government, bigotry, class, etc. are the grander aspects of the galaxy far, far away and are own world. They shape the world more then anything else.Because Andor is dealing with day to day personal aspects, ala local government, racism, class, etc.
When Ahsoka is dealing with The Force, PURRGILS, and other grander aspects of the universe.
I’m not dismissing their either have aspects of the other, but on the surface and within their respective agendas… yes, what I said was correct.
That's what happen when you have a slow crawl of a show that has nothing to say.Damn people in here hard as hell on this show. I think it's been great.