The Official PS4 Thread

[X Knight]

Both possible but I'm sure it will be at least as low as $399 by the time Scorpio launches, possibly even less.

$399 would be a very aggressive ( and attractive ) price, especially since the Neo offers an upgrade in power over the regular PS4. A $399 Neo would also provide serious competition to the $399 X1 S this fall, as the S really doesn't provide a performance/power boost over the original X1.

as a consumer, if given the choice between the 2 at the same price, I'd go for the Neo since it would be more powerful. If it doesn't come with a 2TB drive, I can always add my own down the road since the PS4 allows for that.

a $399 Neo would also make it easier to buy an affordable 4Ktv to go along with the Neo.......lol.

 

[Lily Adler]

Nah, it's the Virtual Boy.

That's only second to the Atari Jaguar!

 

[Havok83]

been seeing more "reports" that Neo will launch this year for $399.

that price seems too good to be true? $499 seems more realistic as the lowest price.

what do you guys think?

the PS4 is $350 and probably likely due for a price drop later this year to $300. NEO at $100 more seems about right. The rumored specs aren't that impressive so it should cost much more to manufacture

$399 would be a very aggressive ( and attractive ) price, especially since the Neo offers an upgrade in power over the regular PS4. A $399 Neo would also provide serious competition to the $399 X1 S this fall, as the S really doesn't provide a performance/power boost over the original X1.

The Xbox S starts at $300 so its not quite a fair comparison

 

[X Knight]

the PS4 is $350 and probably likely due for a price drop later this year to $300. NEO at $100 more seems about right. The rumored specs aren't that impressive so it should cost much more to manufacture



The Xbox S starts at $300 so its not quite a fair comparison

well, I was comparing the Neo to the 2TB S at $400.

but even comparing a $400 Neo to the cheapest $300 X1 S, for $100 more, you are getting a console that offers a performance/power boost.

all this depends, of course, on what the final specs are for the Neo.

 

[Havok83]

well, I was comparing the Neo to the 2TB S at $400.

but even comparing a $400 Neo to the cheapest $300 X1 S, for $100 more, you are getting a console that offers a performance/power boost.

all this depends, of course, on what the final specs are for the Neo.

I get that but its not really a fair assessment. A $400 Neo would likely be the base model and the price would go up from there.

Anyways the PS4 already offers a performance/power boost over the XB1 so thats independent of the Neo offering the same to the current models. Thats already weighed into the decision making gamers have had to make since 2013 choosing between MS and Sony

 

[X Knight]

I get that but its not really a fair assessment. A $400 Neo would likely be the base model and the price would go up from there.

Anyways the PS4 already offers a performance/power boost over the XB1 so thats independent of the Neo offering the same to the current models. Thats already weighed into the decision making gamers have had to make since 2013 choosing between MS and Sony

true. guess it depends on the Neo's final specs, too.

you said above that the Neo's rumored specs weren't really that powerful?

I know the Neo specs aren't as powerful as the Scorpio's, but the Neo seems more powerful than than the current PS4.

it does seem, however, that the Neo won't offer "true" 4K gaming? Some say even the Scorpio won't be able to do that, and Scorpio is more powerful.

 

[spiderman2]

Both possible but I'm sure it will be at least as low as $399 by the time Scorpio launches, possibly even less.

If it really does come out this year maybe it will be 499 and then go down 50 to 449 by the time scorpio comes out.

 

[spiderman2]

true. guess it depends on the Neo's final specs, too.

you said above that the Neo's rumored specs weren't really that powerful?

I know the Neo specs aren't as powerful as the Scorpio's, but the Neo seems more powerful than than the current PS4.

it does seem, however, that the Neo won't offer "true" 4K gaming? Some say even the Scorpio won't be able to do that, and Scorpio is more powerful.

I don't know a lot about tech but my guess is that both the Scorpio and NEO will be able to have 4k for games but it will upscale 4k not full 4k. Yeah even if the NEO is less powerful if it cost less then the scorpio and comes out a year before the scorpio that would be a big thing. Any chances it comes out towards the end of the year but is like the same power has the scorpio and like cost the same that the scorpio? If that happened micorsoft would be in even more trouble then it is now.

 

[spiderman2]

Do you guys think the NEO will have a bigger hard drive like the Scorpio?

 

[X Knight]

Do you guys think the NEO will have a bigger hard drive like the Scorpio?

well, we don't even know how big the Scorpio's drive will be......lol.

but if the Neo is like the PS4 with user replaceable hdd, then the default size of the drive is kind of moot.

I would love if the Neo had a 2tb drive, though, since a stand alone 2tb drive doesn't seem to be as readily available at local electronics stores.

I don't know a lot about tech but my guess is that both the Scorpio and NEO will be able to have 4k for games but it will upscale 4k not full 4k. Yeah even if the NEO is less powerful if it cost less then the scorpio and comes out a year before the scorpio that would be a big thing. Any chances it comes out towards the end of the year but is like the same power has the scorpio and like cost the same that the scorpio? If that happened micorsoft would be in even more trouble then it is now.

well, there were reports that there might be a less powerful Neo out this year ( maybe that's the $400 model ) and a more powerful Neo closer to the Scorpio's specs out next year for $100 more.

 

[Benstamania]

I don't really believe that. If anything Goldfarbs "theory" that current PS4 owners will get a Neo like add on that will allow us to upscale games to 4K.. And play Neo spec games (digital) Seems more reasonable.

 

[spiderman2]

well, we don't even know how big the Scorpio's drive will be......lol.

but if the Neo is like the PS4 with user replaceable hdd, then the default size of the drive is kind of moot.

I would love if the Neo had a 2tb drive, though, since a stand alone 2tb drive doesn't seem to be as readily available at local electronics stores.



well, there were reports that there might be a less powerful Neo out this year ( maybe that's the $400 model ) and a more powerful Neo closer to the Scorpio's specs out next year for $100 more.

Oh right we don't know what the hard drive size for the Scorpio is going to be I was thinking of the xbox slim and its 500 GB, 1TB and 2 TB options lol. While I know you can replace the hard drive but it still matters to a point because with how big games are I think you need at least a 1 TB hard drive now days and buying a hard drive just adds to the cost of the neo. Yeah I have heard that rumor about the less powerful neo this year and a more powerful one next year.

 

[Havok83]

I don't really believe that. If anything Goldfarbs "theory" that current PS4 owners will get a Neo like add on that will allow us to upscale games to 4K.. And play Neo spec games (digital) Seems more reasonable.

How? Again, the PS4 does not have an expansion port

 

[Jick]

$399 would be a very aggressive ( and attractive ) price, especially since the Neo offers an upgrade in power over the regular PS4. A $399 Neo would also provide serious competition to the $399 X1 S this fall, as the S really doesn't provide a performance/power boost over the original X1.

as a consumer, if given the choice between the 2 at the same price, I'd go for the Neo since it would be more powerful. If it doesn't come with a 2TB drive, I can always add my own down the road since the PS4 allows for that.

Do you guys think the NEO will have a bigger hard drive like the Scorpio?

It's baffling to me how we started this gem with only 500 GB. 1 TB should've been the norm from the get go.
I remember how the first rumors about Neo had the system with 500 GB. It'll be really disappointing if it comes out with anything less then 1 TB. 2 TB would be great.

 

[X Knight]

I agree. at this point, 1tb is the bare minimum these consoles should ship with.

 

[Havok83]

It's baffling to me how we started this gem with only 500 GB. 1 TB should've been the norm from the get go.
I remember how the first rumors about Neo had the system with 500 GB. It'll be really disappointing if it comes out with anything less then 1 TB. 2 TB would be great.

its not that much of a shock. They were launching new hardware and needed to keep production costs low. Besides most people did not need more than 500gb so it was best to go with that especially considering you can add a larger one yourself, if need be

 

[Jick]

It was disappointing to me considering how we ended the last generation with a 500 GB slim console, only to begin the next one with the same amount of storage, and that was back in 2012. We had content's size increasing exponencially since then and too many complaints about the HD filling up too quickly, which is understandable considering how even simple packs post game launch could take soo many GB of your storage. There was no leap in regards to this.

4 years later I'll certainly be expecting something more attractive.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I don't really believe that. If anything Goldfarbs "theory" that current PS4 owners will get a Neo like add on that will allow us to upscale games to 4K.. And play Neo spec games (digital) Seems more reasonable.

There is nothing in this theory that seems reasonable to expect at all.

 

[Benstamania]

I don't care either way. Simply saying it's out there.. And I feel it's more believable than other theories.

Yoshida: PS4 is PS4.. It's German and starts at about 6 mins. https://youtu.be/pPixpw5Trw4

Just an establishment over how Neo will operate in conjuction with the existing PS4, similar to whats been established about Scorpio, PS4 will serve as the more affordable standard whilst Neo will serve as the higher-end edition. Support will be mandatory for the PS4 and Neo, developers have to utilize Neo's power but are fully obligated to support the PS4.

The interviewer asks if the generation is ending quickly in favour of hardware progressing in smaller and more frequent steps

Yoshida responds:

Well no, PS4 is PS4, you know the new high end PS4 is still PS4, so you know the lifecycle is not going to be shorter

This should clear up any worries as 'PS4 is just PS4' means Neo will not force you to abandon your existing PS4 library and accessories, they will be all compatible with the console succeeding them.

From Andrew Houses interview there will be no Neo exclusives, as Neo is intended to be a complementary device to the PS4, a high end option that enables greater performance and greater capabilities without cutting support for PS4 users and their library.

 

[Benstamania]

Rumored PS Plus July freebies are The Evil Within and Resident Evil 6 on PS4 . I already have RE6 but TEW is a game Ive been wanting to play.

 

[SpideyVille]

Interesting ... I was planning on getting RE6 but I was holding off on a sale.

 

[Havok83]

Rumored PS Plus July freebies are The Evil Within and Resident Evil 6 on PS4 . I already have RE6 but TEW is a game Ive been wanting to play.

I cant see them giving out two horror games (yeah I know RE6, but you get it) and two retail ones at that. I see one plus an indie

 

[Benstamania]

I don't have faith in anything good, lol. I'll hope for TEW since you can get it new for 20 now.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Yeah, seems pretty unlikely for Plus. They rarely do retail titles, much less two at a time.

 

[zenith16]

Balance Is Best For A Grand Kingdom Mercenary Band. June 23, 2016 . 1:30pm

With so many units, it’s tempting to go crazy when creating a Grand Kingdom party.
Remember to make a more balanced group that uses melee, magic, and other supplemental units.

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Grand Kingdom isn’t a game you rush through. This is the sort of strategic endeavor you savor. I’ve spent five days with it so far and honestly? I’m not even exactly sure what my team is going to look like. I’ve been spending more hours experimenting with possible combos, rather than relying on one troop. It’s a freeing kind of feeling, knowing that there are so many options available, and each one is viable. What I have discovered, however, is that balance is the key to putting together a party that can survive most assaults.

The first thing every Grand Kingdom player should do is pay very close attention to the initial tutorial mission. The team you’re assigned for these first few fights is quite possibly the most balanced one in the game. You’ve got a Fighter, which acts as a tank and damage dealer, a Hunter that can deal damage while staying away from danger, a Witch to cast spells from a distance, and a Medic that can control the battlefield, heal allies, and cause damage as needed. If you’re unsure what you want to do with your crew, it’s absolutely okay to fall back on these four characters. The classes should be available for creating your first custom party.

For additional parties, it could be a while before you get the team that you want. Set characters will appear in the hall to be hired after each quest. You don’t know who will or won’t show up. Even if there are two characters from the same class, their stats and potential could be very different. Grand Kingdom is a game where I recommend constantly checking to see who’s available and picking up anyone you might see yourself using eventually. As an example, I had one Rogue available the first time I checked in. I didn’t see another Rogue appear until five quests later, and by that point I realized how helpful the character could be to the party.


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As far as composition goes, I recommend a party that has two melee characters, close range or ranged, one magic user, and one specialist. However, this isn’t set in stone. A Medic is a good choice early on, since she can heal and lay down traps that punish anyone who goes through spots in certain lanes. Someone might want to go with a Challenger, with his bomb barrels, after they’re more accustomed to battles. But, if you really want a great character in your specialist slot and think you can get by with only three characters, the Dragon Mage is fantastic. She can switch between magic and melee, which becomes invaluable in online battles against other people’s units. She starts with attacking skills and works well on the front line. Dragon Breath, with its area of attack and multiple hits, is one of my favorite things, as it remains useful even once the Dragon Mage’s level hits double digits.

For your primary melee unit, a Fighter, Lancer, or Paladin is an essential party member. These are three units that have substantial defenses. You can send them into enemy lines, deal a good amount of damage to an enemy, and have them draw fire. These sorts of characters might not be able to defeat an enemy on the first try, I know my Fighter never does, but they give foes a target that distracts them from your other units. I prefer the Fighter, since I’m also using a Dragon Mage and could use the support of an attacker with a solid combo, but people who have a full, four person party may favor the more defensive Paladin for his guarding skills.

The secondary attacker could really be any other melee or ranged unit you’d like. Personally, I like using the Rogue on occasions where I don’t have a Dragon Mage in the party. She doesn’t have the highest defense, but she’s able to inflict quite a bit of damage on an opponent. She acts quickly, heads into enemy territory, and usually has no problem taking out an enemy magic user, ranged unit, or specialist. She even has her own guard, though it pales in comparison to a real warriors’.


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But, if someone is just starting out and wants to play it safe, going with a Hunter, Archer, or Gunner is probably best. These are characters that will have a great range. If they’re attacking a character like a magic user or ranged unit, there’s a great chance they’ll take the enemy out. But, they’re also good for finishing off a stronger unit someone like a Fighter, Lancer, or Paladin has worn down. I like the Gunner best in this situation, because the bullets can hit multiple targets and certain shots can inflict status effects on foes.

When going all out, I recommend a Noble, Blacksmith, or Dark Knight as the second melee unit. These are characters for when you don’t need someone who’ll pick people off from the back lines. They won’t be as sturdy as your tanks, but will be able to rush in, take a hit, and last a turn or two. In this situation, I say go completely risky and use a Dark Knight. It’ll inflict crippling attacks on enemies, so even though it succumb to attacks quicker than a Noble or Blacksmith, he’ll do a lot of damage in the process.

For your mage, I recommend going with a Witch or Arcanist. The Witch is strictly for attacks. Every one of her skills is going to deal damage, which can be a big help. If you ever think you’re going to go with a party that doesn’t include a Medic, then you should go with an Arcanist instead. He’s a character that learns damaging attack spells and support skills. Like the Dragon Mage, he has an early level skill called Guard Zone that sacrifices 20% of his health to increase the defense in a zone by 90%. He’s a good guy. The Shaman is another option, if you’re lucky enough to have one show up. I’ve only come across one and haven’t had an opportunity to really use her effectively yet. Her Shadow Skull ability, which hits multiple times, and Dark Spark that target an area, certainly seemed useful in practice!


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As for recommendations, I’ve found a few teams that work as very well balanced crew. My default team is an Arcanist, Dragon Mage, and Fighter. The Dragon Mage is my main damage dealer, the Fighter acts as a tank and assistant, and the Arcanist offers support and ranged attacks. My backup troop, for when I’m playing it safe, consists of a Cleric, Gunner, Paladin, and Witch. It’s basically a variation on the first party you use in the game and gives you the sort of attack and defense that will weather any storm. My most recent troop, however, is the one I’m most interested in experimenting with. There’s a Blacksmith, Dark Knight, Noble, and Shaman. I want to see if I can make that my shock and awe group, where I attempt to deal as much damage as quickly as possible. Assign one of the melee masters to each of the lines, make sure the Shaman’s casting all kinds of curses, and hope I hurt the enemies more than I hurt myself.

But again, these are only my finds in what amounts to less than a week’s worth of experimentation. Grand Kingdom is a huge game, one which keeps going thanks to the online wars. I could see someone spending a week or two before they even begin to find the first troop that really works for them. It’s that varied. Again, as I’ve mentioned, these are only my personal observations. This game is designed in a such a way that anyone could make practically any combination work, if they can put together the right battle plans. I’d be interested to see and hear about what kinds of crews other people are putting together.

Grand Kingdom is immediately available for the PlayStation 4 and PlayStation Vita.

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